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A teenager was murdered this morning

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Maxee · 26/10/2022 22:07

In my area.

A 19 year old student. Randomly stabbed to death at 2am.

I only just read about it and my 17 year old son is out with his friends. They just walk about, chat, get a burger.

I really want to ring him and tell him to come home. They stay out till the early hours sometimes.

I don't like it normally but there's literally a killer in the area.

Would you tell him to come home?

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SkylightSkylight · 26/10/2022 23:38

AutumnScream · 26/10/2022 23:31

Very sad for the young life lost but no you cannot tell a 17 year old to come home. When would it end? Unfortunately violent crime seems to be common place now. As long as he knows to be wary of his surroundings and leave if he sees anything/anyone suspicious then theres nothing else you can do.

@AutumnScream it's bloody 23.30 why can't you tell a 17yo to come home. They should all bloody well be home instead of aimlessly wandering the streets.

my thoughts go out to the friends & family of the 19 year old killed. NO
matter what, no kid deserves that.

Maxee · 26/10/2022 23:38

AutumnScream · 26/10/2022 23:31

Very sad for the young life lost but no you cannot tell a 17 year old to come home. When would it end? Unfortunately violent crime seems to be common place now. As long as he knows to be wary of his surroundings and leave if he sees anything/anyone suspicious then theres nothing else you can do.

But usually you don't know there a killer in the area.

I've text him to be home by midnight. He's not replied 🙄

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Calandor · 26/10/2022 23:39

How horrible. I remember when my sister was at uni one of her course mates, a sweet, quiet medical student, was beaten to death near where she lived (racial random hate crime). Truly awful.

Not every victim is known to the killer.

Sadstuck · 26/10/2022 23:41

No it's Manchester area

SpacehopperFace · 26/10/2022 23:43

My 19 year old is a student there and her boyfriend lives in Fallowfield. I've texted her to say I will always pay for an Uber so she doesn't walk home alone. That poor young man who was killed and his poor family Sad

Sadstuck · 26/10/2022 23:44

@Maxee I'm sure he will be home safe soon but it's horrible being worried. I get it

Mumwithbaggage · 26/10/2022 23:49

How absolutely awful. My youngest is in her first year at Liverpool. They think they are safe and invincible. Condolences to everyone who knew the poor student. And yes, I'd want my child home but know my child would think I was overreacting :( x

Discovereads · 26/10/2022 23:53

@DistrictCommissioner
I would imagine there’s a high chance this was someone known to the victim, not a random attack.

I know you’re trying to reassure and didn’t know all the facts of this case. But, just wanted to let you know that statistically 13% of female murder victims are by a stranger, but for male murder victims it is much higher at 33% by a stranger.

celestialsphere · 26/10/2022 23:53

It’s terrible. I don’t agree that it is worse nowadays especially in Manchester though. It was very dangerous in the 80s and 90s in student areas. At least nowadays they usually catch criminals quickly. There will be CCTV footage and DNA evidence.

Winceybincey · 26/10/2022 23:56

A young man was murdered near to where I used to live. It was a random attack, didn’t know the murderer. It was claimed he had ‘looked at him funny’ or something stupid like that. Random attacks where victims and perpetrators aren’t known to each other do happen quite often, it’s not all turf wars.

but, it’s unlikely he’s going to kill again OP. What’s more likely is that he’s hiding in someone’s spare room, or trying to get out of the country, rather than bringing attention to himself by being out on the streets and serial killers are rare.

I totally get how you’re feeling though, I would feel the same. I have two toddler boys and I’m frightened over their future.

Discovereads · 26/10/2022 23:56

So very sad another random murder of a teen, I feel terrible for him and his family’s loss. 💐

I do worry a lot about my 20 something yr olds as they often walk from bus/train back to their flats at night. The streets should not be so dangerous….

MatildaJayne · 26/10/2022 23:58

My DS was in Fallowfield 2 years ago. He’s a bit closer to the uni now, but still only 15 mins walk from there. Very, very sad and quite scary.

NameChangeForARaisin · 27/10/2022 00:07

I've posted before about my student DS having a knife pulled on him in the foyer of his own student residence. All because he went to the aid of 2 frightened female students who had been followed home from a night out, by 3 young men looking for sex.

A few months later he was threatened at a station by a young drug dealer who accused DS of selling on his patch. My DS wasn't selling drugs, he was on his way home from his 12 hour nursing shift.

I'm so sick of it.
Rishi please make our streets safer, for students and for everyone.

May the young man who died last night rest in peace.

Creameggs223 · 27/10/2022 00:07

Must be a nice area were you are this happens on a regular basis where I am, I don't allow my teens togo out.

Maxee · 27/10/2022 00:12

Creameggs223 · 27/10/2022 00:07

Must be a nice area were you are this happens on a regular basis where I am, I don't allow my teens togo out.

It's really not. A lady was stabbed outside my house.

It's a shit hole.

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EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 27/10/2022 00:17

I live in a shit hole area too, not just random attacks but we've also had mistaken identity etc

Its scary but you can't keep them in forever

NameChangeForARaisin · 27/10/2022 00:19

celestialsphere · 26/10/2022 23:53

It’s terrible. I don’t agree that it is worse nowadays especially in Manchester though. It was very dangerous in the 80s and 90s in student areas. At least nowadays they usually catch criminals quickly. There will be CCTV footage and DNA evidence.

Yes, they may catch them but then they are just let off with it. As in the tragic Yousef Makki case.
😡There is no deterrent.

celestialsphere · 27/10/2022 00:24

NameChangeForARaisin · 27/10/2022 00:19

Yes, they may catch them but then they are just let off with it. As in the tragic Yousef Makki case.
😡There is no deterrent.

They don't "let off" murderers!

Mumwithbaggage · 27/10/2022 00:25

When I was a teenager in the NW it was the era of the Yorkshire Ripper so not safe then. I knew someone (student) who was picked up twice after attacks because he fitted the description. He did look scarily like Peter Sutcliffe when he was eventually caught.

The day I took dd3 to Liverpool after she got her place was they day of that awful awful murder.

I'd like to keep my children wrapped up in cotton wool for ever. You can't though.

Eightiesgirl · 27/10/2022 00:38

My son is a student and lives in this area. He said its a really busy area and the shop near where it happened is open till 2am. He said he goes there frequently late at night and there are always loads of students about. I've begged him to keep his wits about him and stay safe but he just brushes off my concerns. It's such a worry. You send them off to uni in an unknown area and just have to pray they are safe. That poor boy and his poor parents.

Kanaloa · 27/10/2022 00:45

nocoolnamesleft · 26/10/2022 23:22

Student central. Remember it well, though that was decades ago. Also remember being threatening by a stranger with a knife on Wilmslow Road. And there was the guy waving a machete around on Oxford Road. And my mate that was threatened by a guy with a gun up near UMIST. Hmmm, thinking about it there was a lot I never told my parents about! It's no more dangerous tonight than last night. And probably safer, as I suspect there's a heavy police presence.

This is what I was trying to say but more eloquent - it’s no less safe tonight than it was last night. It’s still awful though but your son was just as at risk last night and every other night they’ve gone out. Nothing’s happened to heighten his risk at all.

Kanaloa · 27/10/2022 00:46

But yes it is an awful tragedy. A parent’s most horrible nightmare come to life really.

HoundofHades · 27/10/2022 01:32

A friend of my 18 year old son was stabbed to death, whilst at a mutual friend's house party, during this summer just gone. He'd stepped outside for a smoke, looked at the wrong car driving by, the lads in it (all between 16 and 19 years old) took offence and followed him into the house - where a 16 and 17 year old stabbed him to death in the hallway, in front of a load of terrified party-goers. He died before Paramedics could get to him, although his murderers were caught within 12 to 24 hours. The victim wasn't into drugs, didn't drink much, didn't carry a weapon... and died because he'd looked at the wrong car, probably thinking it was a nice set of wheels, or something like that. His family are devastated, as are the friendship group (known one another since either nursery or primary school, and they're a close knit group, to be fair). The police have said that it was a racially motivated attack, as friend was black and his killers were white. It may well have been. No one at the party knew this group of lads who'd followed friend into the house, but a neighbour had heard the screaming and taken down the car's registration plate number/a description of it, and the police were apparently able to stop them in the next town over.

My son was supposed to have been at the party. He cried off at the last minute, because he didn't feel well - but woke me up in the early hours when he started to get texts from traumatised friends telling him what had happened. Bad news travels fast, unfortunately. My son and his friend were just 17 years old at the time, and perhaps not as close as they once had been (ie, after school, they went to different colleges), but it was the first time in years that I have held my child as he sobbed like a baby at his friend's murder. It took me a while to actually understand what was wrong, as he woke me out of a deep sleep, literally wrapped around my duvet clad form, sobbing his heart out to the point where he was snotty and incoherent. I thought something had happened to his older sister, or to him, or my elderly parents to start off with he was crying so much. When he'd calmed down enough to tell me that his friend was dead, that he'd been murdered at that party, I felt relieved that my son hadn't been there. Grateful, even, that he'd felt unwell. And then crashing guilt, because friend's own mother - a lovely woman who I knew enough to exchange "hellos" with in passing, who helped out at Sports Day in primary school and who listened to the boys' class read every other week (my son was very fond of her) - would never get to hold her youngest child, alive, ever again. Never get to nag him to pick up wet towels off the bathroom floor, or tell him off for putting an empty milk carton back in the fridge... I still feel that guilt, to some extent, alongside the relief that my son (whose mouth and bravado gets him into a few scrapes) wasn't there. Wasn't the one who'd been outside, looked at that car, inadvertently caused offence to those lads inside of it. My son is, to a lesser extent than those friends who witnessed the murder happening/its aftermath, still traumatised. He, and they, all clung to home for weeks afterwards.

It took a long while for me to be happy with him going out with his mates - every parental instinct screams at us to protect them, even when it's from random tragedies like a young person being stabbed to death at/walking home from a party, even when they're grown adults who can technically take care of themselves... we worry. But rationally, we can't keep them safe from the horrors of the world, without ruining their confidence/lives. These days, that just isn't possible. Too much violence, random attacks, knives and guns polluting our streets, never mind the drug culture that's rife... All we can do is hope to anything we hold holy in this world, for them to be safe. To come back home to us, full of tales of their teenage bravado (within reason) and ready for their next adventure(s). All we can do is be grateful that they do get to swagger through the door at 1 or 2 in the morning, making too much noise, possibly inhaling the contents of the 'fridge, drinking the last of the milk, leaving debris in their wakes... Because we're the lucky ones whose children do come home to us.

Canthave2manycats · 27/10/2022 02:12

It's shit being the parents of young adults!! I've three, 25, 23 and 19 and worry about all of them every time they go out!!

Slig · 27/10/2022 02:18

houndofhades my ds has lost 2 friends in 10 months to stabbings. We live in a small sleepy, middle class 'shire village.

These were not drug or gang related.

The knife crime epidemic is out of control. But nobody seems to care.

Heartbreaking for all the families. And once you notice one stabbing you will then notice how often another teenager is killed by a knife. I'd say at least 2 a week.

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