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Feel so sad that I'm not getting on with my 6 year old

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SushiSuave · 26/10/2022 19:29

I'm looking for some advice really. My son is nearly 7 and I love him to pieces but recently I've found all of our interactions end with him being rude and me getting cross. I don't know how to stop this cycle. I don't know if I'm just being overly strict and expecting him to be perfect which is obviously unfair of me - but I'd also like him to be polite and respectful and I can't just ignore when he is not being these things. I have all the best intentions of having lovely quality time with him and every time it ends up with us both annoyed and not really talking. I want us to be friends but at the moment it feels like we are enemies. I have a very demanding term time job and so look forward to the holidays and spending time with him, but it is never as enjoyable as I envision. I'm feeling genuinely sad tonight. I keep explaining to him that it upsets me when he's rude and he needs to be kind and have manners, and he apologises and then 5 minutes later is being rude again. Any advice with how to deal with this without constantly nagging?

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minipie · 27/10/2022 09:21

Then I told him he had to decide and he said "I'll have nuggets but I won't even eat them." No please, just an entitled attitude and then sat looking miserable

My DD age 7 does this kind of thing sometimes. It’s usually at bedtime and when I’ve got cross with her about something (not getting her PJs on when asked etc etc). She will say “Fine, I don’t want a story then”. I don’t think it’s rude or entitled but more her feeling nagged and trying to get back a bit of control ?

MabelMoo23 · 27/10/2022 09:26

Same here with my 6 nearly 7 year old but I do also think that we are really guilty of having adult expectations of young children.

they are 6!! They are growing up and pushing boundaries but they are still very young. Too much choice can be overwhelming and they conform in school and home is their safe space.

so I’ve no answer as I’m the same

BrilliantGreenFlamingo · 27/10/2022 09:31

The McDonalds thing isn’t that bad. The reason it feels worse to you is that you had expectations around it, e.g. it’s a treat and he should feel grateful. McDonald’s is a super stressful place. So much noise, bright, too many choices, the pressure of being in a queue when you’re choosing your food. Something like a cafe would be easier in that you can sit down at a table and take your time reading the menu. Not saying you have to go to a cafe but I think it’s very easy to be overwhelmed in McDonald’s. So I don’t think he was being ungrateful. I think you had expectations of it being a nice time and he got overwhelmed. That was the clash.

With the plug thing id just take it out myself. I’ve been though hell with bedtimes with my two so I know how you feel. It’s such a sad note to end the day on.

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Beamur · 27/10/2022 09:43

Other posters have already said it really, I think that you just need to wind your expectations back a bit and reframe some of the stress points.
MacDonalds - too much choice, either choose before you go or give him some simple choices is - chicken or burger? My DD only likes a limited number of meals outside the house, so I would probably chat to her about where we're going and talk about what food there would be.
Just do bathtime differently. Give a 5 minute warning then the choice is do you pull out the plug now or me? No answer. Pull the plug.
Giving choice, but limiting it makes it easier for you both.
In my experience DD often got huffy with me, when she was frustrated with herself.
I also try not to say no if I can say yes.

DisappearingGirl · 27/10/2022 09:51

Oh I also wanted to say, maybe lower your expectations of yourself too!

My post earlier made it sound like I was always calm and reasonable. I am not. I am loving and caring but I am not a very patient person. Sometimes I do lose it with them and shout when they are pushing my buttons. Especially the not getting out of the bath thing, which drives me mad when I am tired too.

I think a lot of parents (and kids!) find the school holidays a lot more stressful than they would admit to. I think it's normal!!

SushiSuave · 27/10/2022 11:39

Aria2015 · 27/10/2022 09:08

I have a 7 year old that can also be prone to not talking nicely. Rather than jump on him every time I say 'can you think of a nicer way of saying that?' If he asks for something in a demanding way or without a please or if I feel he's just being generally rude I'll say 'Try again, more nicely please'. I stay calm and don't raise my voice but speak in a firm in tone. I give him an opportunity to correct himself before getting annoyed and he mostly does, and once he has, I just continue as normal. I've found this leads to much more pleasant interactions because when I was getting annoyed quickly, he was getting defensive quickly or I'd get a sarcastic 'sorry' (which doesn't mean anything).

I save getting annoyed for the few occasions he's intentionally hurtful. I find he takes more notice now and will be more likely to genuinely apologise. I think when I was getting on at him all the time, it just became 'noise' to him and he largely ignored it. Now i'm keeping our interactions much calmer, he pays more attention when I'm not!

This is great advice, thank you @Aria2015

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SushiSuave · 27/10/2022 11:40

minipie · 27/10/2022 09:21

Then I told him he had to decide and he said "I'll have nuggets but I won't even eat them." No please, just an entitled attitude and then sat looking miserable

My DD age 7 does this kind of thing sometimes. It’s usually at bedtime and when I’ve got cross with her about something (not getting her PJs on when asked etc etc). She will say “Fine, I don’t want a story then”. I don’t think it’s rude or entitled but more her feeling nagged and trying to get back a bit of control ?

Yea I can completely see how this could be him trying to get some control - that makes a lot of sense!

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SushiSuave · 27/10/2022 11:41

Thank you all for being so supportive here and offering such great advice. It's nice to have a safe space to admit these feelings and know others are going through the same

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FlamingoSocks · 27/10/2022 14:05

What about humour? Do you make each other laugh?
In McDs I might have said “FINE! I’m going to get. A massive glass of wine/ Big Mac/ whatever and not even eat/drink it!” which would have made DS laugh it least get a lip twitch and then would have followed it up getting even more and more ridiculous, I’m going to buy Alton Towers and I’m not even going to GO! sort of thing, at some point he would have joined it, we would have laughed, let the dust settle and then I would have said “so you having nuggets then mate?” And he probably would have said yes pls. I always try and find a humourous/playful moment if I can.
also, physical affection. It makes up for so much if you touch/hug/kiss them. I also apologise if I’ve been horrible.
I am horribly impatient and shout too much, being silly and finding humour is something that’s helped. We laugh a lot and hug a lot, so that makes up for shouting a lot! (I hope)

SushiSuave · 27/10/2022 15:36

Humours a good shout - I did try to hug him and make up in McDonald's but he didn't want to - said it was too embarrassing!

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Summergarden · 27/10/2022 21:10

Hi OP,

A couple of years ago I realised that my relationship with my 3 primary aged DCs had become quite strained. I had started shouting at them quite a bit especially in the mornings when they didn’t do what I asked them to get ready and I felt stressed that we were late, then I’d berate them on the school run for it too. Without ever meaning or wanting it to happen, it reached the point where more of my interactions with them were negative than positive. As a result, the DC became increasingly hostile and argumentative both with me and with each other.

I then went on anxiety medication which made a WORLD of difference. I’m so much calmer and don’t get stressed as much which makes it easier for me to cope in the mornings, stay calmer with them and ensure they get organised and ready without us being late. Not saying that you necessarily have anxiety OP, though it took me the longest time to realise it in myself and can’t recommend Sertraline enough for even mild anxiety.

I also read a couple of thought provoking books: The Book You Wish Your Parents Had Read, and When Your Child is 6 to 12. They induced much self-reflection and really helped me see the world better from my DCs perspective.

When they start to get angry or emotional about something, I immediately get down to their level now and show empathy for their feelings eg “It must be frustrating for you to find it hard to decide between which meal to choose. I feel for you. But I also want to help the kind staff who work here at MCDonald’s and not confuse them by keep changing the meal option. So let’s decide you have nuggets today and option B next time”. The first book I mentioned makes the point of parents needing to both say what they want to happen as well as also explaining why, especially the personal impact it will have on you.

A PP mentioned love-bombing. I’ve heard good things about this, and although I haven’t followed it properly I do little things for each DC that boost their self esteem. When they go to bed at night, after switching off the light I’ll often whisper in their ear something that made me proud of them that day, however small. Also similar little notes for them to find on their pillow, room, lunchbox etc. They don’t always mention them afterwards, but it helps strengthen our bond. They sometimes leave little messages and notes on my pillow in return now too which is lovely.

I try to precede a nag with a thank you now eg - “you’re a star for finishing your breakfast in good time, it would be great if you could get dressed now thanks”.

Basically, just keep looking for anything to praise so you have more positive interactions than negatives. I have a great relationship with all 3 DCs now and they are much kinder and sweeter to each other too.

SushiSuave · 28/10/2022 21:58

Thanks @Summergarden for all of the tips there - love the notes idea.

I have suffered with anxiety and been on medication in the past - started as post natal anxiety and I came off tablets about 2 years ago. I tried numerous times to come off the tablets. I know I shouldn't think this way but I feel like if I went back on tablets I'd feel like a failure. That is absolutely no disrespect to anyone else on medication for anxiety - it is just yet another example of my high and often illogical expectations of myself. I know it doesn't matter to be on tablets - but I worked so hard to come off the em that it would feel like a step backwards. I also don't feel anywhere near as bad as I did when I was last on tablets.

I have, however, noticed my PMT getting worse and worse recently, and our bad days often coincide with my period being due and me being short tempered and impatient/tearful. I take supplements and am on the pill to try and combat this but nothing seems to really be working. I also feel like from everything I've read, that my GP probably wouldn't be able to offer anything to help so feel a bit helpless about that side of things. But that's probably for a different thread :)

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