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What do you think about this for the start of a story?

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FuckingHell123 · 22/10/2022 09:26

Be as blunt as you like:

The windscreen wipers sweeped angrily from side to side, battling each violent raindrop as the heavens continued to open on that wet, torrential evening in April 1996. Everyone had been expecting an early heatwave that bank holiday weekend and the evidence of that was clear as Tom Williams watched the young adults of the town stumble clumsily across the pebble stones in and out of the various bars on Epney Road, shielding their summer clothing with last minute umbrellas and holding jackets over their heads. He was amusingly reminiscing his own youth as Ruby Collier yanked open the door and threw herself down on the back seat with a grateful sigh. He had been a cab driver for 25 years at that point and knew every street within a 15 mile radius. So when she asked to be taken to North Street he knew exactly what route to take. She had been his eleventh passenger that night, a night that had been nothing out of the ordinary. Except it wasn't, twenty years later it still haunted him and he still hated the association. Hanging around his neck like an unwanted burden that refused to go away like a wasp buzzing around his head. Because he had been the last link in the chain. His name was forever tainted to that night. After he dropped Ruby Collier to her destination on the outside of a disused train station, nobody ever saw her again.

OP posts:
Mabelface · 22/10/2022 10:05

Be more concise, and it needs a bit more of Tom's voice.

multivac · 22/10/2022 10:05

Cab driver haunted by memory of woman he was last to see 20 years ago, no obvious connection, but perhaps one might be revealed as the plot unfolds....

That has the potential to be a readable thriller/mystery, especially if you come up with a genuine twist.

But - and you did say be blunt! - it needs a total rewrite. For a start, the tenses are all wrong. Multiple verbs are misused (you can't 'reminisce your youth', you reminisce about it; it's swept not sweeped etc); descriptions are overworked and confusing from the start (how can wipers chase individual raindrops?). Strip it right back, keep it simple, try to 'write' a bit less... and get the reader intrigued rather than trying to impress them Smile

Skinnermarink · 22/10/2022 10:09

It was the ‘reminisce’ sentence that made me question English being your first language OP- obviously you’ve said it is now so it’s just an oversight. I thought it needed a preposition after it.

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KnickerlessParsons · 22/10/2022 10:14

Too much use of the word "that" and "the heavens continued to open" doesn't sound right. Heavens opening can only happen once and then they stay open. They don't keep opening.

WeAreTheHeroes · 22/10/2022 10:19

To me it reads as though you think that's how you should write. What's more important is getting the key parts of the story across.

SoupDragon · 22/10/2022 10:23

II agree with those who say it's too wordy. A few carefully chosen words are better than reams of descriptions (you don't need both wet and torrential in the first sentence for example)

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 22/10/2022 10:24

As a few people have mentioned, it's overwritten, but if you can fix that it's a n intriguing premise.

I recommend having a read of Adrian Mole, the Wilderness Years. It's the diary where he's a young adult and tries to write an epic novel. Sue Townsend is excellent at parodying the style of an over-earnest new writer Grin very scathing but funny.

liveforsummer · 22/10/2022 10:32

Don't need to repeat the good advice but despite everything I'm intrigued and would like to know more. Books don't always manage that in the first paragraph so that's a good point

Eranzer · 22/10/2022 10:39

OP I agree it's a little embellished (good word from PP). I've just deleted and swapped some things around below (I'm not an editor, I just laid it out to what I think would flow more evenly). I'd definitely want to read more of your story!

The windscreen wipers swept angrily from side to side, battling each raindrop on that torrential evening in April 1996. Everyone had been expecting an early heatwave that bank holiday weekend, and the evidence of that was clear. Tom Williams watched the young adults of the town stumble clumsily across the pebble stones, in and out of the various bars on Epney Road. They shielded their summer clothing with last minute umbrellas and held jackets over their heads. He smirked, reminiscing on his own youth, when Ruby Collier yanked open the car door and threw herself down on the back seat. He had been a cab driver for 25 years at that point and knew every street within a 15 mile radius, so when she asked to be taken to North Street he knew exactly what route to take. She had been his eleventh passenger that night, a night that had been nothing out of the ordinary. Except it wasn't, twenty years later it still haunted him and he still hated the association. Hanging around his neck like an unwanted burden that refused to go away. Because he had been the last link in the chain. His name was forever tainted by that night. After he'd taken Ruby Collier to her destination on the outside of a disused train station, nobody ever saw her again.

Puppers · 22/10/2022 10:44

The windscreen wipers sweeped angrily from side to side, battling each violent raindrop as the heavens continued to open on that wet, torrential evening in April 1996.

“Sweeped” should be swept.

Personally, I feel this sentence is a little long given that it doesn’t say much - I think shorter, punchier sentences would be better- and the blunt way that the date is plonked on the end reads a bit like a cliché (very “it was a dark and stormy night back in blah blah blah year”).

The violent raindrops doesn’t work for me; I think you could probably find a better metaphor although I’m not sure it’s needed. I think the windscreen wipers sweeping angrily is enough on its own.

I don’t think an evening can be torrential; torrential refers to the rain itself.

…on that wet, torrential evening in April 1996. Everyone had been expecting an early heatwave that bank holiday weekend and the evidence of that was clear as Tom Williams watched the young adults of the town stumble clumsily across the pebble stones in and out of the various bars on Epney Road, shielding their summer clothing with last minute umbrellas and holding jackets over their heads.

The use of “that wet, torrential evening” and “that bank holiday” so close together is jarring for me.

The sentence starting “Everyone had been expecting…” is WAY too long and wordy. It’s hard to follow and doesn’t paint a picture for me; I had to re-read it to try and actually imagine the scene.

Pebble stones = cobblestones?

”Last minute umbrellas” doesn’t work for me. Why are they “last minute”? Why are people taking umbrellas out when they are expecting a heatwave?

He was amusingly reminiscing his own youth as Ruby Collier yanked open the door and threw herself down on the back seat with a grateful sigh.

“Amusingly reminiscing” sounds as though the fact he is reminiscing is itself amusing. I think you are trying to convey a sense that he’s amusing himself by reminiscing about the days when he was stumbling in and out of those same bars and getting caught in rain etc but it doesn’t come across.

I think I would have introduced the fact that he was a cabbie before this point; I was a bit “ooh hang on, why?” when she got in the car, but then it’s not a huge payoff when the big reveal is just that he’s a cab driver and she’s a customer.

He had been a cab driver for 25 years at that point and knew every street within a 15 mile radius. So when she asked to be taken to North Street he knew exactly what route to take.

As above, I’d have introduced his job before this point.

This is also a lot of words that don’t tell us much, but also don’t offer anything in the way of atmosphere, suspense building, scene building etc. I’d cut this.

She had been his eleventh passenger that night, a night that had been nothing out of the ordinary. Except it wasn't

Just double check your grammar here. Also it doesn’t make sense the way I think you’re intending. “Except it wasn’t” isn’t right I don’t think. “Except” obviously implies you’re revealing that things weren’t as they seemed, but then “it wasn’t” would mean that he was right first time, it wasn’t out of the ordinary. Does that make sense?

twenty years later it still haunted him and he still hated the association.

What association? This bit is unclear to me.

Hanging around his neck like an unwanted burden that refused to go away like a wasp buzzing around his head.

”like a” twice in one sentence doesn’t work. I don’t think you need a simile here; it feels a bit forced.

Because he had been the last link in the chain. His name was forever tainted to that night.

“Tainted to” doesn’t make sense. “Tainted by”? “Connected to”?

After he dropped Ruby Collier to her destination on the outside of a disused train station, nobody ever saw her again.

I don’t think a cabbie would drop a young woman who’s potentially been drinking in bars (I’m assuming she’s young because you talked about the young adults of the town at the beginning.) off at a disused train station and think that it’s perfectly normal and safe.

I like this as a paragraph closer, and it’s intriguing. I think it could be more impactful in terms of style. This is the second time you are using her full name. I would use her full name once and then use a description of her for the other reference. I’d probably keep her name at the end because it feels more reminiscent of a missing person news report i.e. factual. “At 11:23pm, he dropped Ruby Collier off at X,Y,Z and she was never seen again.” Something along those lines.

I like the premise and I think this could be a great opener with some tweaking!

Arsewangry · 22/10/2022 10:53

Ok, you said be blunt so I will get straight to it.

Sweeped angrily - do you mean swept? Even so, one doesn't associate a sweeping motion with anger - flicked? Batted?

Wet, torrential evening - both words indicate the same thing, choose one.

Pebble stones - choose one. Cobbles?

Amusingly reminiscing his own youth - doesn't work. Try rephrasing the sentence.

Threw herself down on the back seat - lose down or use onto

He had been a cab driver for 25 years at that point - perhaps, by then he had been a cab driver for 25 years

Hanging around his neck... use a semi-colon or a dash to separate the two clauses.

Like a wasp - you've already used a metaphor to explain the burden by mentioning it "hanging around his neck" - you could lose the second wasp simile.

Because he had been the last link in the chain - try not to start a sentence with "because" unless you intent to explain how in the same sentence.

His name was forever tainted to that night - because of that night or after that night.

To her destination - lose that part of the sentence - it doesn't add anything.

All in all, it left me wondering what happened next and it has good potential. Just try and keep it succinct and to the point using as few words as possible to keep it moving and keep your reader gripped. No need to use too many metaphors / similes.

Paint a picture with your words so your reader can imagine the scene. The people in the street - were they blurred and hurried figures through the rain and misted windows?

Just some thoughts.

AspiringAuthor101 · 22/10/2022 11:32

Btw an author I rate highly once told me to just write - you can’t edit a blank page, so get anything down on paper, and you can always fine tune it after.

PinkSyCo · 22/10/2022 11:39

Too long winded to grab me. Stopped reading before I got through your description of the weather. Sorry.

FuckingHell123 · 22/10/2022 16:24

PinkSyCo · 22/10/2022 11:39

Too long winded to grab me. Stopped reading before I got through your description of the weather. Sorry.

No don't apologise I appreciate the honesty

OP posts:
FuckingHell123 · 22/10/2022 17:18

PROLOGUE

The windscreen wipers swept angrily from side to side, battling each violent raindrop as the heavens showed no signs of stopping on that torrential evening in April 1996. Everyone had been expecting an early heatwave that bank holiday weekend and the evidence of that was clear as Tom Williams watched the young adults of the town stumble clumsily across the cobble stones on Epney Road, darting in and out of bars and holding jackets over their heads. A group of young women in mini dresses and heels huddled together underneath a sheltered bus stop and there was already a queue forming outside the main club on the street. It was a typical, noisy Friday night. Tom smiled, reminiscing on his own youth as behind him Ruby Collier yanked open the door and threw herself down on the back seat with a grateful sigh. He had been a taxi driver for as long as he could remember and knew every street in town. So when she asked to be taken to North Street he nodded, flicked his cigarette out of the window and headed straight to it. She had been his eleventh passenger that night, a night that had been nothing out of the ordinary until then. Because the morning after and in the weeks that followed his once quiet, unassuming life changed forever. His name would be forever tainted by that fateful night. He was one of the few unfortunate people who would have to go through it over and over again. What was she wearing? What did she say? How did she appear? Was she upset? Flustered? Was he sure nobody had been walking behind her before she opened the door? The questions, the accusations, the fingers pointing at him. The stares. The unwanted, hated attention. Because after he dropped Ruby Collier to her destination on the outside of a disused train station, nobody ever saw her again.

Chapter 1 - 2016...

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Whinge · 22/10/2022 17:36

I don't mean this to be unkind but I actually preferred the original. The new version is too slow and doesn't flow as well. Many people told you to cut down but your redraft is much longer.

You started with 242 words and now it's 319

Also several posters pointed out the word tainted doesn't fit with what you're trying to say, yet it's still there.

Chickenpeppers · 22/10/2022 17:38

It's very Peter James, too much scene setting.

FuckingHell123 · 22/10/2022 17:41

Whinge · 22/10/2022 17:36

I don't mean this to be unkind but I actually preferred the original. The new version is too slow and doesn't flow as well. Many people told you to cut down but your redraft is much longer.

You started with 242 words and now it's 319

Also several posters pointed out the word tainted doesn't fit with what you're trying to say, yet it's still there.

Not unkind. If it's a bag of shit it's a bag of shit I'd rather be hurt with the blunt truth than comforted with a lie. I've actually been complimented many times on my writing style but more "Bridget Jones diary entry" comedy type things than this. However my preferred reading genre is thrillers / mystery type stories. I just thought I'd take a quick stab but it's no big deal I know I'll never be Karen Rose x

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FfeminyddCymraeg · 22/10/2022 17:41

I preferred the first draft (with the errors corrected). The second attempt is very wordy. You don’t need all that about the women under the bus stop in their mini dresses and heels, for one.

Whinge · 22/10/2022 17:45

If it's a bag of shit it's a bag of shit I'd rather be hurt with the blunt truth than comforted with a lie

It's not a bag of shit, but you need to listen to feedback. You've had some good advice on the thread and you're ignoring it.

SarahAndQuack · 22/10/2022 17:46

I agree. You've made it even more wordy and you haven't taken out some of the errors/jarring bits.

  • 'the heavens showed no signs of stopping' - what? The rain's what isn't stopping, surely, not the heavens?
  • You've still got the repeated 'that' ... 'that'.
  • You don't 'reminisce on' something. You reminisce about.
  • 'Because the morning after and in the weeks that followed his once quiet, unassuming life changed forever.' This is a sentence fragment, which might be ok as a stylistic choice, but I just don't think it works.
  • His name isn't tainted by the night. Maybe 'tainted by association with that night'?

You need maybe a fifth the number of sentences to convey what you're saying here - it was soaking wet, young people had been out partying, an older cabbie takes a single female passenger and drops her off somewhere really dodgy, and unsurprisingly, everyone assumes he's guilty when she's never seen again.

In your classic detective story, it is obvious he won't be guilty, but we're not really curious about him enough to wonder why yet. It is presumably significant to the plot that it was unexpectedly wet weather - why is that? (I don't mean you need to indicate it in this opening - you probably don't want to - but it might help figure out how to sort the writing if we knew why this is going to matter).

Sorry to harp on about it, but honestly, why does he drop her at the disused train station, rather than (like every middle-aged cab driver who is vaguely nice) replying 'er, love, are you sure? I don't think that sounds very safe' while thinking 'I don't fancy being the one hauled over the coals by the police if a single young woman dropped off somewhere dodgy turns up dead'.

Bumpsadaisie · 22/10/2022 17:46

To be totally honest ... I was bored and I didn't care about the characters. To much "painting a picture" and trying to spell out every detail for the reader rather than diving in and letting the reader have some space for their imagination and to. work things out.

Read your story and then the beginning of Jane Eyre - it just starts "there was no possibility of taking a walk that day" which in 10 words already gives us the feeling of how trapped Jane was at Gateshead Hall.

How less powerful it would have been if Brontë had written:

"The rain beat heavily against the window as the small orphan girl looked out, disappointed that she could not escape the prison of the house that day".

Boring!

SarahAndQuack · 22/10/2022 17:47

FuckingHell123 · 22/10/2022 17:41

Not unkind. If it's a bag of shit it's a bag of shit I'd rather be hurt with the blunt truth than comforted with a lie. I've actually been complimented many times on my writing style but more "Bridget Jones diary entry" comedy type things than this. However my preferred reading genre is thrillers / mystery type stories. I just thought I'd take a quick stab but it's no big deal I know I'll never be Karen Rose x

Everyone's first drafts/quick stabs are shit. It's what you want to do that matters.

TwinklyBranch · 22/10/2022 17:47

It's not very good. I don't really care about Tom or Ruby based on that.

Skinnermarink · 22/10/2022 17:47

‘Disused railway station’ still in I see.

And ‘torrential evening’

sorry but it’s not a great edit OP!