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Paedophile being allowed on holiday before sentencing.

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ClaraThePigeon · 20/10/2022 10:18

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-63313556

Does this make any sense to anyone? WTF? Who's to say that he'll return? Not to mention the risk to children as he won't be monitored while in Greece.

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NotVeryHopefulBeenHereB4 · 20/10/2022 19:32

Fuck me I've heard it all now. This is such an insult to those 2 little girls he abused and their families.

What are the chances this sick fuck is going to merrily return home after his holiday and report to the police, as told to do, like a good little paedo? Slim to fucking nothing.

Logoplanter · 20/10/2022 19:36

I have no sympathy for the man. I hope he gets a long sentence.

However, if he was on bail beforehand he could have left the country at any time, providing he had his passport which he most likely did.

Just because he's pleaded guilty and is liable to get a custodial sentence doesn't mean he will abscond. Loads of people who are on bail turn up to court knowing they will get custody. The court will be looking at the chance of him absconding and balancing that against the fact he's probably got strong community ties, has answered bail previously etc. Most people wouldn't have the means to just up and leave their country and take up a life elsewhere.

ClaraThePigeon · 20/10/2022 19:43

Just because he's pleaded guilty and is liable to get a custodial sentence doesn't mean he will abscond.

It isn't just about him absconding though that is a still possible, but also about the risk he poses to children in Kos. He might be on holiday but I doubt that his paedophilic tendencies take a break. Plus I see no reason why he should be allowed to take a holiday. It isn't a need. He isn't flying over for a family funeral. It's an additional insult to his victims.

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Wheredoallthepensgo · 20/10/2022 19:43

arethereanyleftatall · 20/10/2022 11:58

I'm 47 years old. This is relevant to the following...in my life I have never had such little (none) faith in our law system as this past few years.
The priorities have gone so bat shit and woke, that I think the 2020s will absolutely be noted down in history as the decade the world lost the plot.
Rape? Murder? Peadophilia? Go for it.
Call a man in a dress a man? Off to jail.

This sadly sums it up very well. It's all bonkers.

Maytodecember · 20/10/2022 19:44

I thought you had to hand in your passport if you were on bail?
A judge (male, noted) actually telling him to go on holiday during children’s half term because he’s been so good as to plead guilty to the sickest crimes is very suspicious.
@elderberryink good that the Kos locals are making his face known. Pity the police can’t detain him on arrival.

Wheredoallthepensgo · 20/10/2022 19:47

ParkheadParadise · 20/10/2022 12:13

The Evil Bastard who murdered my dd had access to a phone and his social media accounts while on remand.

But on remand is prior to the trial so at that point legally he still has to be treated as innocent? (Even if everyone knew he'd be found guilty there is still the justice process to occur). So i don't think he can be stripped of everything!

Logoplanter · 20/10/2022 20:37

You don't hand in your passport when you are on bail, not unless it's made a condition of your bail which it only would be if there were significant concerns you'd abscond.

I completely take on board the point about the concern for the people of Kos. He'd have to sign on the sex offenders register here as he is now convicted but I don't think there are any legal provisions in place to enable them to be informed. That's clearly something that needs addressing and would benefit both countries.

In relation to his sentence, there is no legal provision to allow the judge to punish him (by refusing him his holiday) other than by sentening him and he's probably awaiting a probation report before he can do that.

I'm not saying it's right but on the basis of the limited information available the judge appears to have applied the law correctly.

I'm not morally in agreement with the decision, I'm just trying to explain why it's probably happened.

ParkheadParadise · 20/10/2022 21:05

Wheredoallthepensgo · 20/10/2022 19:47

But on remand is prior to the trial so at that point legally he still has to be treated as innocent? (Even if everyone knew he'd be found guilty there is still the justice process to occur). So i don't think he can be stripped of everything!

@Wheredoallthepensgo

The evil cunt brutally murdered my dd and left her lying naked for a innocent passer by to find.
If that had been your child I'm bloody sure you wouldn't want the evil cunt happily posting about your child on FB

Wheredoallthepensgo · 20/10/2022 21:24

@ParkheadParadise yes I think most on MN are aware of your DD's death as you post regularly and I'm very sorry for your loss, and no I'm sure I wouldn't want anyone posting from a remand cell about it, but the fact remains that legally he was pre trial. Until the law is changed that's how it is.

Rexthesnail · 20/10/2022 22:08

Not surprised. My ex husband is a paedophile and sexually abused all 3 daughters, but the CPS dropped it after a years police investigation.

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