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Will Liz Truss be out of office soon?

40 replies

asblindasabat · 16/10/2022 22:31

I just can’t believe that a Prime Minister is actually in this situation and facing the prospect of being out of office only just over a month into their role.

I know things are bad and there is speculation about her being ousted, but is it actually likely to happen or is it just the media being dramatic?

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22pink · 17/10/2022 01:12

conkercollector · 16/10/2022 22:40

She is there in name only. Hunt and some of his cronies will be making decisions. They're just letting her keep the job title so they don't have to gknthrough another farcical leadership contest.

This is what I think.

Bring back Boris!

22pink · 17/10/2022 01:16

colouringindoors · 16/10/2022 23:19

Really?

Please watch Keir Starmer's speech at the Labour Party conference. He may not have the "charisma" of Johnson but there's some good policies there (and a few ounces of human decency imho). Even the (usually Tory supporting) CEO of Tesco think Labour are stronger economically.

I’m a Tory and would be interested, I admit, to see what KS would be like as prime minister. But the problem, the huge problem with Labour, is that I know as a woman that my rights are not safe. They want to tear up the Equality Act and remove sex-based provisions. It is terrifying. And the implications and ramifications of this are horrific. This is why I will have to keep voting Conservative (although Penny Mordaunt is also terrifying, for similar reasons).

BalmyBalmes · 17/10/2022 01:27

From the Tory party’s POV, the basic problem is that Truss is the membership’s choice for leader, but she was not the MPs’ choice. Sunak was. She has a mandate, but not the support of the majority of her colleagues.

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Walkden · 17/10/2022 01:51

"From the Tory party’s POV, the basic problem is that Truss is the membership’s choice for leader, but she was not the MPs’ choice. Sunak was. She has a mandate, but not the support of the majority of her colleagues"

True as this is she was still chosen as the second candidate, above many others which I'm not sure says much about the judgement of those MP's who did vote for her.

With four chancellors in four months and possibly 3 PM's in a year we are turning into a laughing stock and I can't see how the Tories are going to restore a sense of Political and economic stability/competence.

Can't see them calling a general election either though.

mathanxiety · 17/10/2022 01:55

They'll keep her in Number 10 but she'll be powerless. She'll have to put up with Boris and Carrie's wallpaper as punishment for her sins.

Hunt and Sunak will run the show with none of the risk involved in being the standard bearer.

mathanxiety · 17/10/2022 01:57

@22pink

Your rights as a woman who has a job will be torn to shreds under the Tories.

Tegelflughafen · 17/10/2022 01:58

@22pink but all the things you are fearful of - trans women in female prisons etc are happening under the tories ? To say labour are as bad is ridiculous as they’ve not been in power for 12 years and certainly didn’t behave like this. What’s your opinion about brexit - a Tory issue by the way ? The economy is ravaged by their actions but nah labour would be worse….god help us 🤔

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/10/2022 01:58

Christmascaroll · 17/10/2022 01:09

If Truss and her top team are excluded (Coffey, Hunt, Braveman, Cleverly) then who can/ should it be? (2 parts)

  1. Current either Tory MP or Lords? Non

  2. Famous Tory's? Ken Clarke

It will be whoever the markets and the IMF think is the safest pair of hands. This is the Tories last chance to prevent us going bankrupt.

BobLobIaw · 17/10/2022 02:03

colouringindoors · 16/10/2022 23:19

Really?

Please watch Keir Starmer's speech at the Labour Party conference. He may not have the "charisma" of Johnson but there's some good policies there (and a few ounces of human decency imho). Even the (usually Tory supporting) CEO of Tesco think Labour are stronger economically.

Starmer is Tory lite. He's only there, same as Blair, to perpetuate the notion that we have a democracy, when Murdoch's A-team have pushed the idiotic British public too far.
Watch the Al Jazeera documentaries.

Starmer is a fifth columnist.
I was a LP member til his election. Can't stand him.

lannistunut · 17/10/2022 02:32

I can't understand why anyone still takes the 'And Unionist' bit of the Tory name seriously after the mess they've created since Brexit.

Labour presumably support the GFA, as they have since it came into being.

lannistunut · 17/10/2022 02:37

22pink · 17/10/2022 01:16

I’m a Tory and would be interested, I admit, to see what KS would be like as prime minister. But the problem, the huge problem with Labour, is that I know as a woman that my rights are not safe. They want to tear up the Equality Act and remove sex-based provisions. It is terrifying. And the implications and ramifications of this are horrific. This is why I will have to keep voting Conservative (although Penny Mordaunt is also terrifying, for similar reasons).

The idea women's rights are safe with the Tories is laughable, they have presided over the country in this period where you feel your rights have been threatened and want to remove all your rights by scrapping the HRA.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 17/10/2022 02:41

Tegelflughafen · 17/10/2022 01:58

@22pink but all the things you are fearful of - trans women in female prisons etc are happening under the tories ? To say labour are as bad is ridiculous as they’ve not been in power for 12 years and certainly didn’t behave like this. What’s your opinion about brexit - a Tory issue by the way ? The economy is ravaged by their actions but nah labour would be worse….god help us 🤔

Quite!

urbanbuddha · 17/10/2022 02:43

The idea women's rights are safe with the Tories is laughable, they have presided over the country in this period where you feel your rights have been threatened and want to remove all your rights by scrapping the HRA.

I agree with you, but the issues around trans and women's safe spaces, and sport, need to be rigourously addressed by the Labour party. These issues are clearly concerning to many people and saying "it's complicated" just doesn't cut it.

scaredoff · 17/10/2022 09:06

This is worth 10 minutes to watch:

Not from a leftie, but veteran Tory journalist Peter Oborne, outlining the scale to which the Tories have been bought by the super-rich (that is, even more than they always were), and questioning whether they'll ever be able to come back from this.

Personally, while it would be wonderful to think Truss had accidentally managed to do something useful by destroying the Tories for good, I think he understates their ability to reinvent themselves, and the electorate's gullability in believing them.

Truss is probably no more evil and self-interested than the rest of them, but her problem appears to be that she's not very bright. In crashing the pound to give a bung to the 1%, while everyone else is struggling, she's made the Tories' true colours obvious where the whole point of previous leaders like Boris was to hide them. People have short memories and I'm sure they'll find a way back from it, but it will take more than two years.

They're in damage control now, and the problem with getting a new leader is that noone in their right mind would want to do it.

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/10/2022 11:11

The Tories will find someone, they have to. They don't want to be the party that bankrupted Britain even though they have actually bankrupted Britain.

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