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How much do you need to have in premium bonds to win most/every month?

26 replies

GivenchyDahhling · 12/10/2022 20:17

Just that, really.

My toddler son has around £1000, built up with odd £100 deposits from family over the last 3 years, and has never won. My parents and mother in law all have the maximum (£50,000) each and win every month; usually a few hundred. I was just wondering what the middle ground between those two extremes would be, where you’re more or less guaranteed a monthly win.

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Cudz · 12/10/2022 20:21

I'm sure I've read on here before that the sweet spot is about 25k when people start to get regular monthly wins

Relocatiorelocation · 12/10/2022 20:26

about 30k I reckon

AprilShowers23 · 12/10/2022 20:26

I started winning every month once I got to about 16k. I never won when I only had a few grand in.
There's a calculator on money saving expert that tells you what your likely winnings will be and you are having average luck based on what you've won so far etc. It's interesting!

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AprilShowers23 · 12/10/2022 20:26

Sorry that was meant to say every OTHER month. I wish every month!

Wheretheskyisblue · 12/10/2022 20:27

Yes £25k. 2% of this is £500 per year or an average of £41 per month so you would expect £25 winnings each month. Moneysaving expert has a premium bonds calculator.

mynameiscalypso · 12/10/2022 20:28

DS and I have 10k each. One or both of us wins more months than not but it's not every month.

Wheretheskyisblue · 12/10/2022 20:29

www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/premium-bonds/

Hearthnhome · 12/10/2022 20:30

I think it’s around 30k

Theres a premium bond thread and some of the posters know all the details.

my da is really lucky and wins fairly often on 2.5k. Dd rarely wins on her 2.5k.
I have just over 30k and have won around £1000 in 12 months. One £500 and the rest in £25.

A few hundred pound, every month like your in laws, is extremely rare, even on full holdings.

Rutland2022 · 12/10/2022 20:30

DD has £1000 and has only won £25 once. The bonds were a gift and we don’t have access so can’t change it (which is fine, we are very grateful for it) but we find we get a better return on her ISA which has £5k so we aren’t adding to the premium bonds yet.

inheritanceshiteagain · 12/10/2022 20:37

£20,000. Win most months. Total of around £450 in under 2 years

GrunkleStan · 13/10/2022 08:30

My mum has approx £25k. Regularly wins £25 / £50. Has probably won a couple of hundred this year.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 13/10/2022 08:43

DH and I have got £50K each and have won £1,075 between us this year. We put the money in from an inheritance as we didn't know what else to do with it as interest is so low

lurkingfromhome · 13/10/2022 09:18

I have £22K. I've just checked and I've won £25 three times in the last six months, but months can go by and I win nothing. I won £100 once last year but that's basically it. My mum and dad have £50K each and both win pretty much every month, although very rarely more than £25 or £50. But given that they both win nearly every month, it adds up to probably around £1000 a year

Bramshott · 13/10/2022 09:27

Did I read somewhere that their changing the odds so there's a better chance soon? Both the DDs have a few premium bonds bought years ago by their great-grandparents. They did used to occasionally win something, but nothing for the past 10 years...

Hearthnhome · 13/10/2022 09:36

Bramshott · 13/10/2022 09:27

Did I read somewhere that their changing the odds so there's a better chance soon? Both the DDs have a few premium bonds bought years ago by their great-grandparents. They did used to occasionally win something, but nothing for the past 10 years...

They increased the prizes from the October draw. Which is drawn at the end of September. Ironically, it the worst I had done in months 😂

BarbaraofSeville · 13/10/2022 09:50

My parents and mother in law all have the maximum (£50,000) each and win every month; usually a few hundred

That's unlikely to be strictly true that they win 'a few hundred' each on £50k every month. Understanding how PBs work is a lot easier if you have a basic understanding of statistics and things like bell curves/normal distributions.

The current pay out rate is 2.2% and each bond has a 1 in 24000 chance of winning, so on £50k you should win 2 prizes per month on average and these prizes are most likely to be £25, 50 or 100 each. But in reality, you are likely to win around 25 prizes a year, and some months you'll win nothing, some 1, some 2, some 3 etc. Most months you'll win between 1 and 3 prizes and most of these will be £25 with the odd £50 or 100, based on statistics.

Have a play with the calculator on the MSE website for different amounts and look at the tabs at the bottom for further analysis/explanation.

www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/premium-bonds-calculator/#result

But it is quite likely that on £1000 you'll never or rarely win. The green tab at the bottom of the MSE calculator shows that if you hold £1k for 1 year, you have a 60% chance of winning nothing. On lower amounts, you're gambling the interest you would receive on an instant access savings account.

If you put £1000 in the best available account today, it will pay out 2.75%, or £27.50 interest in a year. So by having the same amount in PBs, you're giving it up for a slightly worse than 50/50 chance of getting a similar amount (probably £25) but a smaller chance that you'll win more, possibly very much more.

If you look at the details of prize winners on the NS&I website, you'll see that some quite small holdings do win big money. But statistically, it's low odds.

Eg this month there were 11 people with holdings of £1000 or less, who won at least £5000.

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker/winners

Including two that have had £25/35 for decades and won £5000.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 13/10/2022 09:53

I have £30 worth, bought for my birth. Surprisingly I’ve never won. It’s all a bit pointless. Even in the 70’s I didn’t ever get a win. I should really sell them, might pay for a few drinks.

Thingsdogetbetter · 13/10/2022 09:55

My dh and I have £1k each, bought on the same day last year. He's won £25 twice already. I've won nothing! The jammy bastard. 😁

TheIsaacs · 13/10/2022 09:56

I think at £1000 the odds are not in your favour really. I closed mine and put it into a 3.3% fixed 1 yr savings account.

TellMeWhere · 13/10/2022 10:05

Mine are full and I get something most months - although got nothing last month 😡

I certainly don't win a few hundred a month - it's usually between 25-100. Last month DH got 125.

I think it's over 30k where you start to win more regularly.

TellMeWhere · 13/10/2022 10:06

Meant to add, the biggest single prize either of us have ever had is £1000.

SnarkyBag · 13/10/2022 10:11

I have £50k holdings and win between £25 and £75 most months. I won £200 this month which is the largest amount I’ve won in the three years of having them. When I had around £25k I mostly won £25 every month with the occasional £50 win.

I highly doubt someone with £50k is winning a few hundred each month.

CherryLongIsland · 13/10/2022 10:30

DH and I have the full holdings and DC have £35k each.
One or more of us has won every month since we bought the bonds a couple of years ago, the most any of us has ever won in one go was £150.

Zipps · 13/10/2022 10:59

We have 18k and buy roughly £150 each every month. We win £25 or £50 about every couple of months. It's not the greatest investment imo so only keep the amount we leave in premium bonds low.

Carlycat · 13/10/2022 11:01

Had 2k in for a year. Not had a penny. Going to cash them in