Has our love affair with the Tories finally ended this week?

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From the working class cap doffers to the upper classes and the top 1%. The Tories have always been the main party of government in this country for the most part. They've ruled certainly most of my life.

It felt like the public fell out of love with them on Black Wednesday 1992 and that let in New Labour for a spell in power, before David Cameron reignited the English's centuries love affair with the Conservatives in 2010 and they've been in power ever since. Traditionally the only thing more popular here that has ruled longer is the Royal Family. The Conservatives are such a part of the fabric in this country that they should have their own verse in our national anthem almost.

This week has felt like another Black Wednesday though. The Tories will be back, of course they will. As we speak there'll be hordes of Etonians and Oxford types plotting their path to power in the future. However, like in the 90s it looks like they might lose the next election. They're going to have to rebuild that trust and love again.

Tory stronghold where we live (I have never voted for them however).

I was chatting at work and the consensus from one Tory voter was She's not voting for them again. Gone are the safe pair of hands for the economy.

There's hope. I just wish it hadn't taken this for traditional Tory voters to waiver.

I live a in a very pro Tory area and have some good friends who would defend the Tories come what may BUT since Boris's party stuff and now this debacle, the mood has changed.

What has happened this week has hit Tory voters v hard, mortgages, investments, pensions all taken a hammering.

If there is a quick bounce back, then i think they'll return to the Tories but the boast of a Safe pair of hands for economy has been trashed.

More importantly, will the ex Red Wall voters be fooled again?

..just add, i think the real winners in rural areas like mine will be the LibDems at the next GE.

Me neither.

You know when someone gets romance scammed online and even though on one level they know they've been scammed they still sort of think it was real love?

I think some Conservative voters are like that. No matter how badly the Conservative Party lie to them and fuck up our country and our economy they still believe they are fiscally responsible good government.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63039558

Nah, bollocks to that.

The ones that are going to change their mind will already be changing it (like many on this forum) because there's no conceivable way a rational being with an ounce of humanity could look at this government and conclude that it's either competent or morally acceptable.

That leaves the hard core Tory faithful who will absolutely, positively, categorically NEVER vote any other way, nor even spoil their ballot. Not if the next PM is livestreamed molesting children while illegally signing over government reserves to foreign dictatorships to buy torture equipment. The ones for whom there is absolutely no process of thought, hesitation or doubt involved. Just a ballot paper and a well-established neural pathway pointing an unconscious manual action to a box marked "Conservative" with as little conscious control or reflection as wiping your arse.

This group is surprisingly large, and nothing I can do or say is going to make any difference to them. They are a vile stain on humanity and my only concern is to spend as little time as possible in their company and to minimise the devastating effect they are able to have on my life, and the lives of my family, friends and fellow citizens. I have no desire to "engage" with them or to dignify their existence by pretending it's worthy of engagement.

What love affair.

No, I've never been in love with them. Hideous fuckbags the lot of them.

Im just glad the mask is slipping. They’ve gaslighted the country for decades.

i listened to that, absolutely appalling, the tories are up to their necks in far right ideology, nothing short of corruption and people voted because they thought the EU undemocratic... what a bunch of mugs we are.

Truss/Tories etc must be laughing at us all.

Love affair? Don’t make me laugh!

First past the post system and more rural Tory voting constituencies means it takes 1000s more votes for Labour to elect an MP. Rigged, unfair system. We need electoral reform. It would have saved us from Brexit as Nationalist-leaning voters would have felt represented; and it will end this perpetual Tory pergatory.

Polls would suggest the public has well and truly fallen out of love with the Tories.

This was unthinkable in 2019. What a fall from grace.

More importantly, will the ex Red Wall voters be fooled again?

I think red wall was all about Brexit and loving Boris, I think once Boris went and 'Brexit done' it's hard to see them keeping seats like Stoke and Workington even before this latest debacle.

Add in a couple of Tory manufactured crisis for trauma bonding and that's exactly what it's like.

I'm here to say this!

@scaredoff you're a fucking star. Thank you for saying this.

Good point @TooBigForMyBoots

I think a lot of people are feeling discontent with the main parties, and that’s always a bit dangerous.

Well, sure. That's how we got Brexit, which is a clear and present danger to everything we hold dear.

I agree, but unless we get proportional representation the chances are very slim.

But it also may be how we get PR, which would help to make us an actual democracy and solve a number of our problems.

The RL Tory voters that I know, know fuck all about economics. They might say that’s why they vote Tory, but ask them to explain exactly what it is about Conservative economic policy they agree with and it tends to come down to not wanting to pay for single mothers, not wanting any more brown people moving to the UK, not wanting Germans to tell us what shape our bananas should be etc.

Very little to do with actual, y’know, numbers.