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What exactly is a well rounded child?!!

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Shapeshifter5 · 21/09/2022 10:45

I'm just over pondering this... On many of the education threads certaim schools & types of parents are credited for producing "well rounded children"... What does it mean?

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Shapeshifter5 · 21/09/2022 10:50

Also cultutal capital another term that gets thrown about. I get that one.... Its the "well rounded" child that confuses me... Obviously they don't mean a stout child!

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Wisteriabloom · 21/09/2022 10:55

I see that description as a child who's academic, sporty and popular. It's quite a dated term though, as there are a lot of children who don't, and can't, fit all three categories!

bigbadbarry · 21/09/2022 10:57

Sport/music/art/good academically with a life and hobbies outside school.

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Shapeshifter5 · 21/09/2022 11:05

It sounds expensive to have a "well rounded" child!

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maddy68 · 21/09/2022 11:06

Has lots of experiences. Plays sports, reads, goes to museums , has hobbies. Etc

Changechangychange · 21/09/2022 11:13

Shapeshifter5 · 21/09/2022 11:05

It sounds expensive to have a "well rounded" child!

Not necessarily, DS’s state primary is good on academics and music, and we take him to council swimming lessons, council gymnastics, and the local rugby club. And go to zoos, museums etc in the holidays, most of which are free where we live (London).

In private school terms, I think “well rounded child” just means “we aren’t an academic hothouse”. Or “we are totally a hothouse, but we are also obsessed with our rugby team”.

Nobody is going to pay £20k a year for a school that says “we only focus on academics, you won’t get any added extras with us”.

Shapeshifter5 · 21/09/2022 11:18

I was wondering this.. That's a good point. The excellent private near us does music classes afterschool along with yoga, athletics, singing, ballet, cooking classes, football, tennis & has it's own pool.... Our state school has no after school clubs..

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sóh₂wl̥ · 21/09/2022 11:23

Depends who's saying it - DC state school focuses on producing well rounded children - but most kids and parents would like them to focus on exam results or at least stop the results rapid decline.

I think with private schools and better state schools it's a way of saying were not just an exam factory - we do more.

Shapeshifter5 · 21/09/2022 11:27

I think the extras are important & help a child with socialising & help them gain confidence in themselves

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sóh₂wl̥ · 21/09/2022 11:38

I'm not imply the extra aren't important.

I'm saying it's a phrase with no real set meaning and heavily reliant on context.

I'm suggesting thinking about who is saying it and why the phrase is being used because tells you the meaning in that context.

At my DC state the extra really aren't there -though on paper they might be - and the exams here are bloody important for next steps - it a phase trying to draw attention away from real problems.

For a private school were good results are more of a given - the extras are important because exam factory isn't what is probably wanted.

SleepingStandingUp · 21/09/2022 11:41

Well rounded I'd assume they have extra curricular music/dance/drama/sport and a language and are doing well at school, read well, are sociable and polite, and have opportunities to enjoy the arts and travel (not stuck in an all Inc kids club for a fortnight!)

DS is 7. He does gymnastics, beavers and currently fitness class after school. He's average academically, reads well but is obsessed with Dav Pilkey 🙄, he's over friendly and doesn't always remember his manners. He loves the cinema, we go to the theatre a few times a year (ballet next month, but also We Will Rock You this year, Shrek soon so a mix) and we're very familiar with our local art galleries. We only holiday in Wales. He's like a hemisphere.

SleepingStandingUp · 21/09/2022 11:44

Ultimately I think it's about a child who is comfortable in the world and will turn into an adult comfortable in the world. For older kids I'd add then an awareness of things like the environment, big news stories etc.

Solosunrise · 21/09/2022 11:45

I'll sometimes refer to my (now adult) children as 'well rounded individuals' in a tongue in cheek way.
Basically as a nod to the fact that despite/because of the way they were brought up, they have become decent though imperfect humans.
They can string a sentence

Solosunrise · 21/09/2022 11:49

Bloody phone! They are employable, they have interests and they have good relationships. They can all string a sentence together and they listen, too. Reasonably well educated and capable of gaining more in the way of qualifications if they choose.
I'm very relieved that they've turned out ok 😂

Shapeshifter5 · 21/09/2022 11:50

So being a well rounded child is basically the as being a child who has been exposed to plenty of "cultural & social capital" or is there a difference?

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maxelly · 21/09/2022 11:55

This thread is starting to sound like Miss Bingley in pride and prejudice's description of an 'accomplished woman' - truly I rather wonder at some of you knowing any such well rounded children, do they improve their minds by extensive reading also? 😣Grin

Seriously though, I think others are right when they say it's context dependent, a school describing itself as such may be hinting that their exam results are worse than the hothouse up the road, but they compensate for it by lots of extra curriculars and/or turning out children who are sane rather than anxious wrecks, it can be a back-handed compliment (oh don't worry that Johnny failed his a levels and now works at Tesco, my Timmy may got have 11 As and a scholarship to Cambridge, but Johnny is so* well rounded) or a genuine way of saying that a child excels in many different areas. Generally I would think of someone 'well rounded' as being pretty good at lots of different things rather than being exceptional in just one, and is a happy, calm, balanced sort of person (not necessarily Queen Bee of popularity but able to get on well with lots of different kinds of people). I don't think you need a fancy shiny private education or loads of extra-curriculars to be 'well rounded' at all, quite the reverse, I would have thought one of the major strengths of a comprehensive education is having mixed with a wide variety of people from a young age and not being in the sort of atmosphere that encourages obsessive focus on any one thing (be that academics or music or whatever). And I would describe someone who is good at football, interested in graphic art and has interesting ideas on climate change as just as much 'well rounded' as someone who showjumps competitively, plays the trombone and is into French cinema, one perhaps does indicate more of an expensive upbringing/hobbies than the other but both are good 'all-rounders' in my eyes...

Changechangychange · 21/09/2022 11:57

Shapeshifter5 · 21/09/2022 11:50

So being a well rounded child is basically the as being a child who has been exposed to plenty of "cultural & social capital" or is there a difference?

Related but not identical, I would have said - you could be very academic and knowledgeable about art, history etc - that would give you a lot of cultural capital. Though you wouldn’t really be well-rounded.

Whereas a well-rounded child might be bright and good at playing the guitar and sport, but feel totally out of place in a gallery, ballet theatre or posh restaurant, so lacking cultural capital.

washingbasketqueen · 21/09/2022 11:58

A well rounded child is a happy and content one. One who is doing ok academically and has a range of hobbies and interests (and the opportunity to pursue them).

maxelly · 21/09/2022 12:03

Shapeshifter5 · 21/09/2022 11:50

So being a well rounded child is basically the as being a child who has been exposed to plenty of "cultural & social capital" or is there a difference?

Well I don't think just the exposing in and of itself is the difference, although perhaps children that are taken to lots of different activities and meet lots of different types of people are more likely to be well rounded than those that aren't. I think it's down to the nature to the nature of the child more than anything else, if your child is a sporting or musical prodigy and wants to do nothing more than obsessively play and practice all day long, that's wonderful and you should encourage it of course, but I wouldn't describe them as 'well rounded' no matter how many museums and play dates you take them too, it's just not their personality to be an 'all rounder' (not to say you probably shouldn't also persist in trying to balance them out a bit more too). It's generally meant as a positive thing to describe a child as such but not some kind of badge of honour that needs to be achieved or box you need to force someone into...

Sweetmotherofallthatisholyabov · 21/09/2022 12:06

A well rounded child is like a highly accomplished woman.

BogRollBOGOF · 21/09/2022 12:21

DS is neurodiverse so has a "spiky profile" i.e. there's a lot of contrast between his strengths and interests and his areas of difficulty. In contrast I was generally good at most things but didn't excel in a clear direction; well rounded.

DS would naturally immerse himself into his niches of interest, but he has been "rounded" a little by finding sports and music he can engage with and giving a broader life experience within what he finds comfortable.

I favour schools that are more holistic and favour a broad curriculum and extra-curriculars, both as a parent and staff. Exam factories aren't healthy places to be and universities/ employers want more than just exam results.

Shapeshifter5 · 21/09/2022 12:57

@BogRollBOGOF I want to raise interesting kids who can chat about anything with anyone

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CFinn · 21/09/2022 13:29

This phrase takes me back! I went to a very academic grammar school in the 90s. They were very intent on encouraging us to be 'well rounded', which to them meant having lots of hobbies (sport, music, etc) as well as getting good exam results so we had lots of impressive stuff to put on our university applications. Obviously we all joked about it being a euphemism for 'fat'.

I'd like to think that these days it's more about raising happy kids who are able to function in the real world when they leave school, but as others have said it probably depends on the context.

ThreeRingCircus · 21/09/2022 13:35

I definitely think it depends on the context. For me a "well rounded" child means they're competent on all levels. I.e. they work hard and are engaged with school, they have good emotional intelligence and good relationships with peers, they enjoy sport of some kind, they have a hobby etc. To me it's not necessarily that they're super academic or the best at sport, it's looking at them in the whole rather than focusing on them excelling in one area.

Shapeshifter5 · 21/09/2022 13:53

Seems like private schools can produce this type of child better than state. My dc's school have no afterschool clubs & sports facilities aren't utilised as much as they could be. No off site trips either... We do enough with them outside school but it's very time consuming

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