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New employer has offered me the same salary as I'm currently on.

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marshmelloow · 20/09/2022 14:38

Is this normal? I'm on 30k and they have literally just matched that. I'm going to ask for more as it's a step up from my current role but I feel pretty deflated to be honest. I thought they would have offered me around £35 and I'd try and get £38. It's made me a bit irritated to be honest

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LIZS · 20/09/2022 14:40

Did they ask what you were currently earning and expected?

LadyFromage · 20/09/2022 14:40

What did you ask for? How does the 30k compare to the market rate? What else do they offer (e.g. benefits or progression etc)?

I could see a scenario where offering the same might be appropriate but it's all in the details.

passport123 · 20/09/2022 14:40

If they don't match what you think you are worth, don't leave your current job. Where are you compared to others who do similar jobs?

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fruitbrewhaha · 20/09/2022 14:42

Was the salary on the job advert?

You can negotiate for more, you have to ask.

marshmelloow · 20/09/2022 14:42

They asked what my current salary was- I told them £30k. It's just frustrated me because I feel I can't really go up £8k now which is around what I wanted

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PeekAtYou · 20/09/2022 14:42

Ofc they will try and low ball you. Time to start flexing your negotiating skills and see if you can get the salary that you want. (I'm assuming that your expectations are reasonable)

fruitbrewhaha · 20/09/2022 14:42

What is the job? And where?

Margo34 · 20/09/2022 14:42

How much/what range was the job advertised for?

You don't have to accept it! Negotiate or just stay put 🤷

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/09/2022 14:43

Negotiate.

marshmelloow · 20/09/2022 14:44

No salary on ad- that in itself annoys me. I'm going to challenge it politely. Thing is my own employer is doing 7% cost of living increase.

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CatHatSat · 20/09/2022 14:45

Not normal at all. An £8k jump in salary is expected as part of a job move.

Tell them you won’t accept less than £40k and if they say no, then you also say no.

Do not lowball yourself by accepting this.

idonotmind · 20/09/2022 14:45

Say you want $40k

Then you'll probably get $35/37

ALWAYS lie about your current salary to get more

CatHatSat · 20/09/2022 14:46

If in your next interview you are asked what your current salary is, reply with “I won’t accept less than £..”. Do not tell them your current

Celia24 · 20/09/2022 14:46

I wouldn't leave a job for a new job with the same salary. No chance.

AffIt · 20/09/2022 14:48

Negotiate or stay put.

The upheaval of moving to a new job has to be matched by some form of increased benefit, be it salary / pension / benefits etc.

Going from one job in which you get X to go to another to get X (and losing the protections / enhancements you will have in your current role, assuming you've been there for more than two years) is a bit pointless.

(The only time I would advise against this would be if you're in a GET OUT NOW situation, such as bullying / very poor management etc, where something is better than nothing).

2pinkginsplease · 20/09/2022 14:48

You always add a bit on when prospectus employees ask you what you earn or what you expect to earn.

I'd try and negotiate higher.

Horcruxe · 20/09/2022 14:49

I wouldn't bother, unless there is a good chance of promotion at the new place,.or it's a step up in way of qualification and will improve your CV for your next job.

If they wont improve the offer find a different job.

AffIt · 20/09/2022 14:49

idonotmind · 20/09/2022 14:45

Say you want $40k

Then you'll probably get $35/37

ALWAYS lie about your current salary to get more

You don't have to lie per se, you just have to word your response properly, e.g. 'my salary expectations are X'.

No point lying about your salary as any future employer (or future employer's finance dept) will see what your previous salary was from your P46.

Margo34 · 20/09/2022 14:49

marshmelloow · 20/09/2022 14:44

No salary on ad- that in itself annoys me. I'm going to challenge it politely. Thing is my own employer is doing 7% cost of living increase.

Then use that to start negotiating, tell them your current employer is putting salary up (don't say by how much) and let them know a minimum you'd be looking for.

Alicetheowl · 20/09/2022 14:51

Negotiate. They've gone in with their lowest offer because they don't know why you're leaving. Yes, you've told them a load of waffle about change or career progression, but it might be because you sense the business is in trouble, or there is a horrible bullying culture, or you hate it. If you're desperate you will take a job on the same salary. Ask for more.

CurlsLDN · 20/09/2022 14:51

You'd like an increase of 25%, which is a massive leap, so the new job must have significant increased responsibilities compared to your current job for you to think it's worth that.

So list those out, as well as any other contributing factors - such as current employers cost of living rise, market rate salary for equivalent jobs - and calmly and professionally put the case forward for the salary you'd like based on all those factors.

You can say "I appreciate your offer to match my current salary. However that salary reflects my current responsibilities;
Feeding one cow
Painting two houses

The new role has increased responsibilities:
Feeding two cows
Painting four houses

So to reflect that I would ask for an increase in salary. I have checked jobsite and similar roles are offering £38k, so I would like to ask for a starting salary of £38k

PlntLady · 20/09/2022 14:57

They are deliberately low balling you. Ask for the extra 8k. Worst they will say is no and probably counter offer at 35k.
Show them you mean business and highly value yourself. Set the bar for it you decide to move. Show then what your expectations are from the start.

My most successful job move I refused to tell them my salary in the interview and stated that 'a more relevant answer would be to discuss my salary expectations'. It was the first time I ever showed I played hard ball and have carried that attitude on at the same company since I moved.

Tbh though I'm not sure I'd move if a potential employer tried this on me. It shows they seriously under value their staff.

Go for what you want. They will probably respect you more for it. If not, ask yourself if you really want to move.

PauliesWalnuts · 20/09/2022 15:01

Don’t forget to consider their pension offer. If it’s high it may be worth a move eg I went from one role to another organisation with only a £1k raise but they had a final salary public sector pension. If it’s the same or worse then don’t move.

Roselilly36 · 20/09/2022 15:01

How long have you been in your current role? Personally, in the current economic climate I wouldn’t move, for the same salary or even an increase, should you have redundancy rights etc. Good luck OP.

oceanbleu · 20/09/2022 15:04

I was interviewing a few months ago and I always said I was on higher than I was. In two cases they matched it and one went slightly higher which is the one I went for. Never tell them what you're actually on.

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