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Do the horses in funeral procession look stressed?

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Gozleme · 19/09/2022 12:57

Don’t know a lot about horses and am just musing while watching tv… but I noticed one in particular throwing its head around a bit and they like a bit out of step with each with quite a bit of head throwing at times

This must be a stressful situation for them with all the people and music.. or are they specific “parade horses” that are used to this sort of thing?

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MangyInseam · 20/09/2022 03:24

Shortandfurry301 · 20/09/2022 00:18

I agree with a lot of this in that it is fascinating to watch horses interact together as a herd. Training methods are changing and there is, thank heavens, more awareness of natural horse behaviour. However, I also think there is a balance to be struck. Herd dynamics and natural environments are not always kind. Wild horses are often under nourished, carrying painful injuries or heavy worm burdens.

Up to the introduction of the motor car, every member of the general population would have had huge familiarity and practical experience of living cheek by jowl with equines and them with us. Since then, we have lost a huge depth of understanding and wealth of knowledge which has not been fully reclaimed. Imho though, not riding and working with horses will only lead to extinction. It's already happening with shire horses. And I heard on the TV today that the Queen was more or less solely responsible for revitalising seven of our native breeds.

Imho, the best route to understanding and treating horses with compassion, is to live and work with them more and more, not the reverse.

I tend to agree.

It's also worth understanding that horses are truly domesticated animals like dogs, they develop relationships with people and working along side them is something that most enjoy as long as they are well treated.

Although it's good to see harsh training methods become less used, I think there are a number of social trends behind this idea some people have that it would be better to not "force" horses to be ridden. One being something that affects people's thinking about human beings too - confusing stress with distress. All animals have times of elevated stress response and in some cases it's actually positive that there are times of rest alternating with times of more heightened response.

There's also an increasing lack of understanding of working animals generally, I see this with people who can't seem to understand that working dogs derive a lot of satisfaction from their lives, and that maybe the life of many pet dogs, even pampered ones, is pretty boring and unhealthy.

And related to this more and more people who want to treat all animals as pets. I recently saw a bunch of people in a poultry group jump all over a person who kept chickens mainly for tick control, because it meant they were out in the day and could be eaten by predators.

I'd also agree with you about people romantisizing a "natural" life. There are real wild horses where my husband works - their lives are very harsh indeed, they survive on tiny amounts of coarse grass, have huge parasite loads as you mention, often have to dig for water, and many die of exposure in the winter. It's illegal to interfere with them in any way, and yet somehow people don't think, oh, we have a responsibility to make sure these animals are cared for to a certain standard - quite the opposite they tend to think that the law is correct and they should be left to be wild.

There is a weird space between that being fine for one set of horses while another set are being abused if people want to ride them or cause them any stress.

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twistyizzy · 20/09/2022 08:05

rickandmorts · 19/09/2022 21:04

I really hope so @twistyizzy but like someone else said, I don't think racing will ever change because of how much money is involved. I would love to see police horses and the Royal horses used in ceremonies such as today banned in my lifetime.

That was me who said the racing comment 😄

Shortandfurry301 · 20/09/2022 10:42

rickandmorts · 20/09/2022 00:43

I agree with a lot of this in that it is fascinating to watch horses interact together as a herd. Training methods are changing and there is, thank heavens, more awareness of natural horse behaviour. However, I also think there is a balance to be struck. Herd dynamics and natural environments are not always kind. Wild horses are often under nourished, carrying painful injuries or heavy worm burdens.

@Shortandfurry301 advocating for horses to be kept as naturally as possible doesn't mean not worming them, treating them for injuries or starving them Confused. And obviously if one was getting the crap beaten out of it in my small herd I wouldn't just stand by and let it happen because of 'nature'. But on the majority of the livery yards near me horses are either in stables or in tiny little electric fenced squares on their own so they don't 'hurt each other' and they're not allowed to experience a herd and the safety that comes with it. Makes me sad.

In that case we are on the same page rickandmorts! I agree horses should be kept as naturally as possible when they are within our care. What I was addressing was the general sentiment, often expressed on Mumsnet, that living in a wild herd is alway best and that they shouldn’t be ridden, or their care managed in any way. When in fact, the closer man is to horse, and the better trained a horse is, the more liberty they can have imho anyway.

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