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George and Charlotte to join procession

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Dodie66 · 18/09/2022 22:33

Just reporting on the news George and Charlotte will join the procession inside the cathedral

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LynetteScavo · 19/09/2022 08:27

MN is weird about children at funerals.

Hbh17 · 19/09/2022 08:29

It will be a restrained & calm environment, and the service is only an hour long. I think we can trust their very thoughtful and experienced parents to know what's best for the children.

Plumbear2 · 19/09/2022 08:29

DappledThings · 19/09/2022 08:23

They are literally walking from the door to their seats with their parents
Hopefully so. The point is the order of service says they are walking just with each other and behind their parents. If that's just the formality of the the booklet and actually it isn't going to be like all the other processions have been then great, walking in with their parents sounds fine. It does however sound pretty brutal to me to expect them to walk in a pair without being able to hold a hand or get reassurance.

I don't have any issue with them being there, I'm surprised Louis isn't going to be I don't think he's too young either. I just wouldn't make them march unaccompanied. But maybe the description of the service is misleading.

Louis is to young, he is only 4 even though he does look older. The other children won't be by themselves. Their parents will be in front of them and they will be surrounded by other family members. They are basically just walking to their seats.

JustLyra · 19/09/2022 08:34

LadyHarmby · 19/09/2022 08:18

I mean the ones in front of the public, ie from Buckingham Palace to Westminster Hall last week and from there to the Abbey today.

Presumably they don’t want to.

The walk from Buckingham palace to Westminster hall was 40 minutes. A forty min walk, in front of the public, may simply be something they don’t want to do.

I would also wonder if there’s a tradition aspect to it. I didn’t do the cords at my Nana’s funeral because I knew that she, like many of her generation, didn’t think women should. I think that’s nonsense and women can do it just as easily as men, but at her funeral I respected my grandmothers stance.

JustLyra · 19/09/2022 08:38

DappledThings · 19/09/2022 08:23

They are literally walking from the door to their seats with their parents
Hopefully so. The point is the order of service says they are walking just with each other and behind their parents. If that's just the formality of the the booklet and actually it isn't going to be like all the other processions have been then great, walking in with their parents sounds fine. It does however sound pretty brutal to me to expect them to walk in a pair without being able to hold a hand or get reassurance.

I don't have any issue with them being there, I'm surprised Louis isn't going to be I don't think he's too young either. I just wouldn't make them march unaccompanied. But maybe the description of the service is misleading.

There isn’t space on the OOS to have the four Wales titles in a row. There’s nothing W & C have done with their children so far to suggest they’re suddenly going to start throwing them to the wolves without a care for them.

I’m not surprised Louis isn’t going. I imagine within the wider family they’ve made a decision to take the older bunch - George, Charlotte, the Phillips girls and probably Mia - and not the younger cohort. The press made such a big thing of his behaviour during the jubilee I wouldn’t trust them not to make a big thing of any normal 4 year old things.

FacebookPhotos · 19/09/2022 08:54

If they’re only walking from the entrance of the Abbey to their seats I really can’t see the big deal. There will be lots of people, but it is largely invited dignitaries so they’re unlikely to be visibly upset. Their parents will know how upset the children are likely to be - a great many children that age would simply be a little bit sad rather than really upset at the death of an elderly great-grandmother.

It might seem strange to many people that they’re walking as a pair rather than with their parents, but that won’t necessarily seem strange to them. I imagine they’re quite used to formal church services where everyone walks in in pairs.

Motorina · 19/09/2022 08:54

LadyHarmby · 19/09/2022 08:15

Why do none of the Royal women join in these processions, apart from Anne?

In this context, I think it's because they're inlaws, rather than blood relatives. At least, the Vigil of Princes in London was more than half female, but they weren't the spouses, they were those who were direct descendents of the Queen.

SoupDragon · 19/09/2022 09:03

I'm surprised Louis isn't going to be I don't think he's too young either.

he is absolutely too young to be expected to sit still and behave during a long, solemn ceremony! It's not a joyful occasion like the Jubilee.

JustLyra · 19/09/2022 09:20

It might seem strange to many people that they’re walking as a pair rather than with their parents, but that won’t necessarily seem strange to them. I imagine they’re quite used to formal church services where everyone walks in in pairs.

I think they’ll walk with their parents. There’s just not enough space for all 4 Wales titles in one line.

Theyve got the Duke of Gloucester on a separate line from the Duke of Kent and Prince Michael yet I’d bet they will walk as a 3 as they did at the hall.

JustLyra · 19/09/2022 10:37

Very interesting to see Fergie arriving with the Queen’s grandchildren.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 19/09/2022 11:28

Oh glad fergie went

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 12:13

According to Hello they were supposed to walk behind their parents. But they decided at the last minute to have them walk in between. That was I think the right decision.
I do not think Louis is too young to go to an ordinary family funeral. He may be at the private one. But the state one is different. You can't sit at the back of the church and easily nip out if he is too restless.

JustLyra · 19/09/2022 12:34

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 12:13

According to Hello they were supposed to walk behind their parents. But they decided at the last minute to have them walk in between. That was I think the right decision.
I do not think Louis is too young to go to an ordinary family funeral. He may be at the private one. But the state one is different. You can't sit at the back of the church and easily nip out if he is too restless.

I think that’s a magazine backtracking - there’s no way they were ever walking behind. Kate had Charlotte’s hand from the moment they left the car.

There just wasn’t space on the page to have them all listed on one line

tellmewhyidontlikemondayfunerals · 19/09/2022 12:45

My child is the same age as Louis and is absolutely too young. Too unpredictable and too mischievous for anything of this
Kind. I understand totally why he wasn't there

MrsFinkelstein · 19/09/2022 13:30

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 12:13

According to Hello they were supposed to walk behind their parents. But they decided at the last minute to have them walk in between. That was I think the right decision.
I do not think Louis is too young to go to an ordinary family funeral. He may be at the private one. But the state one is different. You can't sit at the back of the church and easily nip out if he is too restless.

That's the magazine desperately backtracking its disinformation.
As several pp have said there was no room on the order of service to list all 4 Wales' in the same line. They walked in with their mother to join their father. They were always going to walk all together.

DownNative · 19/09/2022 14:14

antelopevalley · 18/09/2022 23:19

William and Harry said it was traumatic being in the procession behind their mothers coffin. Why would he do that to his own children behind their grandmothers coffin?

Over the top reaction.

For one thing, Diana was Harry and William's mother whereas the Queen was their Great-grandmother. It wouldn't be equally as traumatic in that case!

As you can see, they were fine and well behaved.

I swear some people just want to be negative about everything to do with the State Funeral. 🙄

DownNative · 19/09/2022 14:16

DownNative · 19/09/2022 14:14

Over the top reaction.

For one thing, Diana was Harry and William's mother whereas the Queen was their Great-grandmother. It wouldn't be equally as traumatic in that case!

As you can see, they were fine and well behaved.

I swear some people just want to be negative about everything to do with the State Funeral. 🙄

Obviously, I meant she was George and Charlotte's Great-grandmother.

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 14:36

I find it strange that when the Queen died Royal Family supporters said George, Charlotte and Louis would be devastated, but at her funeral suddenly it is no big deal.
i think walking between their parents into the service is okayish. The original plan though was for them to walk alone and the initial announcement sounded like they would be in the procession outside.

SoupDragon · 19/09/2022 18:50

The original plan though was for them to walk alone

no it wasn't.

their names wouldn't all fit on one line of the order of service, that's all.

JustLyra · 19/09/2022 18:56

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 14:36

I find it strange that when the Queen died Royal Family supporters said George, Charlotte and Louis would be devastated, but at her funeral suddenly it is no big deal.
i think walking between their parents into the service is okayish. The original plan though was for them to walk alone and the initial announcement sounded like they would be in the procession outside.

They were never walking alone and the announcement was very clear, lots of people just read as far as the word “procession” and assumed.

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 19:02

I posted a link to a news article saying they were supposed to walk alone and there was a last minute change.

SoupDragon · 19/09/2022 19:04

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 19:02

I posted a link to a news article saying they were supposed to walk alone and there was a last minute change.

"According to Hello" 😂

JustLyra · 19/09/2022 19:05

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 19:02

I posted a link to a news article saying they were supposed to walk alone and there was a last minute change.

Given that neither BBC nor ITV said that. Not even the daily Mail said that I think that’s very clearly Hello correcting their own assumptions

toomuchlaundry · 19/09/2022 19:07

We've told you on many threads @antelopevalley you can't believe everything you read in the media

londonmummy1966 · 19/09/2022 19:34

I just don't get the suggestion that at 9 George is too young. THere are probably boys in the choir who are younger who are expected to work as well as behave. If any of them have recently lost a grandparent or other close relative it could be quite triggering for them to attend today.