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So confused by diets

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Canthinkofaname79 · 17/09/2022 16:03

I need to lose weight but how,
I don't want to calorie count,
I've done low carb,
I've tried Michael mosesly fast 800,
I just feel totally overwhelmed by different diets and i end up not doing anything.

I have pre diabetes and also binge eating disorder, it's all a mess really.
Would low carb be best for me? Make me feel fuller? I just struggle not to binge on chocolate especially if I'm low or stressed. I am actually having counselling for the bingeing.

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SommerTen · 17/09/2022 20:36

Hi @Canthinkofaname79
I'm 46; 3 and a half stone overweight, binged on food regularly for years since my teens until very very recently & was told by the nurse at my practice just a few weeks ago that I'm borderline pre-diabetic (my HBA1C is 41) and need to make changes now...

I have literally given up bingeing about 4 weeks ago. It's too soon to say for forever. But two things made me want to stop. It feels almost as if I've just given up a habit such as smoking or heroin; it was that bad. Bingeing is an addictive behaviour that you have to want to stop.
So... being told I'm almost pre-diabetic (I work in healthcare and have a healthy fear of type 2 diabetes) made me shit scared and I literally changed my diet that day.
Second... I'm on a low wage plus low rate PIP for other chronic health problems.. I can no longer afford to keep bingeing with all the bills going up.
But I won't lie, it's the diabetes thing that had most impact.
So I just.. stopped. After 30 years.

How I changed my diet...
I've stopped eating the endless chocolates & biscuits we get given at work. I don't eat cake anymore if I go out for coffee.
I swapped my daily white rice for basmati rice (lower Glycaemic Index) & swapped the crumpets & honey for wholemeal toast & peanut butter.
And as I said earlier, I don't binge anymore (which was when I felt bored & lonely in the evenings).

The rest of my diet is healthy as I've been dieting for a while. But I haven't weighed myself for a few weeks so I don't know if the swaps are working yet.

I also bought a book second hand on Amazon (£2); it's £12.99 in Waterstones.
'How to Reverse Your Diabetes' by Dr David Cavan, it's aimed at those with type 2 diabetes & pre diabetes.

I ve still got to read it but seems legit so far.

Regards exercise, I never in the past have lost weight just with exercise only maintained my weight. I do need to start gym again as I've now got arthritis flaring up. But I will be combining it with low sugar low fat low ish carb (yawn) calorie counting.. aiming for 1500 on a non work day.

maverick1010 · 17/09/2022 20:44

I used to suffer from bulimia and this was caused by trying to keep my weight down and having a very restrictive diet. If I indulged I couldn't stop.

I started eating a healthy diet and my weight stabilized. I gave myself treats so that I didn't binge. It took quite a long time but I got there in the end with healthy eating, some treats and exercise. I think this is similar to what weight watchers and slimming world advocate. I was good at calorie counting and knowing about fats and carbohydrates etc.

I don't believe in any particular diet, just a healthy diet for life. I can indulge now and again but not binge.

gwenneh · 18/09/2022 00:19

Luredbyapomegranate · 17/09/2022 17:52

@gwenneh

that’s interesting, do you mind sharing where you are being treated and any resources you’d recommend?

At present I’m not being treated, so I don’t have a current therapist. I started being treated for this via my NHS GP in 2006 and received a diagnosis of ED-Not Otherwise Specified and was referred to CBT.

I ignored it.

I moved overseas, had a few sessions with a specialist in the US where Vyvanse had just been approved for BED…lost some weight, but ignored the underlying triggers and so when I stopped taking Vyvanse the weight came back. Shocking, I know.

Moved back and forth yet again, saw a few specialists on eating, worked with no fewer than three nutritionists, and generally used our BUPA policy to specialist hop for a while. When I could be bothered.

Finally it was a combination of my last bout of gestational diabetes in 2019, a few life events, and lockdown that made me turn it around. I finally started listening to the rules that had been given to me over and over: eat what you want, when you genuinely need it (physical hunger cues). Eat it in measured portion sizes. When you eat make sure it is something you genuinely are going to enjoy, not just what is in front of you. Don’t eat because it is a mealtime, or out of habit when in the car/on the school run/sitting around. Don’t be afraid to stop eating - the clean plate police don’t exist. Throw food away if you’re not hungry. And so on.

There was no request to change what I ate. Just how, and how much of it I ate.

if it sounds a lot like intuitive eating, there’s an awful lot of crossover there. But by going through it all, plus the DBT for the stress - mindfulness and learning to say no were a big part of it, as was emotional regulation. I have had two binges in the last sixteen months, lost six stone, and am generally a happier person now.

I wish it hadn’t taken 15 years to get here but I’m glad I did.

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Luredbyapomegranate · 18/09/2022 00:57

@gwenneh thanks for taking the time to respond. This is very useful

ZealAndArdour · 18/09/2022 14:25

I agree with @gwenneh that intuitive eating is the happy place that I’ve gotten to after my diagnosis and treatment for BED.

I eat when I’m hungry, and stop when I’m full. I don’t deny myself anything that I fancy, and trust that my body is asking for it because it needs it - be it sugar or carbs or salt or vegetables or whatever. I’ve manage to oust all my old ingrained ideas about “good” foods and “bad” foods, they have no moral value, just a means of getting calories/energy. Some days the energy comes from a plate of chicken and veg, other days it’s from crisps and chocolate. It’s all okay, it balances out, I don’t hold onto negative feelings about how I’ve eaten, and I also don’t use food to numb or treat bad feelings or anxiety any more.

It’s the best place I’ve ever been in with food/weight/my body. It’s totally possible to get there, but you do have to give yourself up to the therapy and be prepared to unlearn everything you’ve ever been told about diet and womens bodies, I didn’t trust myself with the principles of intuitive eating to begin with, thought that I’d overeat and take the “you can eat anything you want” too far, but after a while, the previously “off-limits” food groups kind of lose their appeal anyway. I almost never overeat now, I’m totally in touch with my fullness cues and can happily put my leftovers in the bin or Tupperware and don’t feel the need to keep returning to them.

It has honestly changed my life. If anyone is in Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire and wants to know where I was referred for treatment please feel free to PM me and I’ll give you the details so you can ask your GP to refer you.

Canthinkofaname79 · 18/09/2022 18:49

Thank you, this is all very helpful.

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