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Has anyone been to the Lying In State and wished they hadn't bothered?

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Reallybadidea · 17/09/2022 14:38

Just being nosey really. I'm not the most patient of people and can't imagine queuing for hours for anything. Has anyone been and found it a bit of a letdown once they got to the end (beginning?) of The Queue?

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Feathersandothers · 17/09/2022 15:18

It’s utter madness. If I dragged a toddler in the freezing cold to queue for 20 hours to see the coffin of my favourite pop star I’d fully expect some sort of intervention from child services for cruelty. There was a woman interviewed on the news with a four year old, insisting the child ‘loved the Queen’ and was desperate to ‘help bury her’. Terrible.

pinkbear95 · 17/09/2022 15:18

This is a great question because I don’t understand how you can queue for 7 hours to simply view and walk past a coffin. I genuinely don’t understand it?

Doingprettywellthanks · 17/09/2022 15:19

But what about the kids themselves?!

How utterly shit for them
How utterly shit of their parents

bootseason · 17/09/2022 15:21

So, so far we've not found a person that regretted it just a whole lot of judging people queuing...I paid my respects in Scotland, queue was mixed demographics and it was memorable.

Justtootired55 · 17/09/2022 15:23

I'm on the train home, having queued from 00.50 Thursday night till 14.30ish on Friday when we actually went past the coffin. I dont regret doing it but I wouldn't do it again and if I had known how long it would take I would not have done it. Yes I felt bad for the children. Most of them obviously didn't want to be there.

weatherwhirl · 17/09/2022 15:24

Someone I know who queued for over 13 hours said it was "well worth it in the end". But then they would, wouldn't they?

Lunificent · 17/09/2022 15:26

I’ve not come across anyone in real life who went. It’s fine if people want to do it but I doubt very much the queen would have felt it was a necessary way to commemorate her.

sageandrosemary · 17/09/2022 15:27

I could imagine it to be disappointing but then at the same time, people must know what it is they're queuing up for.

I find the whole thing quite bizarre really and can't imagine why anybody would want to go! However, 'different folks, different strokes', as they say!

Eupraxia · 17/09/2022 15:28

I think the main push for bring there is to aquire an enduring social media memory post to say I was there.

miserablecat · 17/09/2022 15:30

bootseason · 17/09/2022 15:21

So, so far we've not found a person that regretted it just a whole lot of judging people queuing...I paid my respects in Scotland, queue was mixed demographics and it was memorable.

I'm not going to judge the type of person that goes by age, ethnicity, non vaxxer, 🤨class/social demographic etc
...but I might judge the rationale of taking a young child who hasn't chosen for themselves to be there...

Doingprettywellthanks · 17/09/2022 15:30

Lunificent · 17/09/2022 15:26

I’ve not come across anyone in real life who went. It’s fine if people want to do it but I doubt very much the queen would have felt it was a necessary way to commemorate her.

Ditto. No one in my family nor friendship group or work colleagues even considering going

and we are 40 min train to London

OriginalUsername3 · 17/09/2022 15:30

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 17/09/2022 14:54

how many people (adults) have just been walking nonchalantly, as though they were sauntering down to the local Spar for some milk.

I didn't phrase that particularly clearly - I mean when they actually get inside the hall and go past the coffin; of course they will have been walking/sauntering nonchalantly when still moving along for miles in the queue outside.

I have noticed this and I think it's a case of, when you're driving down the motorway or a very well known route and sort of zone out and get there and your elite "wow that went quick, I don't even remember it!" I recon they've been walking at that pace for so long that they've zoned out and forgotten to look at the coffin.

Peckhampalace · 17/09/2022 15:32

I went overnight Thursday and it took about 12 hours.
I was surrounded by a wide demographic, more than I expected. People had come after work Thurs and had Friday off, or were going to do Friday meetings remotely (rather them than me) or in other ways arranged their lives. I was also surprised how far people had come.
I was actually in the hall about 25 mins as the guard changed just I got to the top of the steps, and again just before I got to the coffin.
Was it worth it....well yes, to me it was. I said my thanks for her years of service, and took the wishes of my parents who didn't think they could queue but liked knowing they had a representative.
It might be seen as a waste of effort, but I like being a tiny piece of history.

greenhousegal · 17/09/2022 15:33

Well it wasn't forced on these people like in North Korea. And there were many motivations for this, pilgrimage, thanks, respect, nosey, the crowd, history etc. A gathering of all sorts for all kinds of reasons.

I think I would have liked to go myself just for the experience and obviously respect, but I am sure I would have turned around and gone to the nearest hostelry after an hour.

Hats off to those with the patience and the stamina, and steel bladders to see it through.

bellac11 · 17/09/2022 15:36

ThisIsNotAFlyingToy · 17/09/2022 14:44

No-one will admit it. Just saw a woman on the news, getting the bus from Manchester on her own to go. Probably spending money she can't really afford.

Hopefully you're just really poor at expressing yourself in writing otherwise it makes it look like you're saying that people from Manchester are invariably poor?

What on earth do you mean

Hotandbothereds · 17/09/2022 15:36

ThisIsNotAFlyingToy · 17/09/2022 14:44

No-one will admit it. Just saw a woman on the news, getting the bus from Manchester on her own to go. Probably spending money she can't really afford.

Wow that’s some classic north/south divide snobbery there.

Nobody in the godforsaken northern realms of Manchester has ever been to that there London clearly 🙄

HoneyFlowers · 17/09/2022 15:39

Felt sorry for the people going past the other night on right hand side, a very over zealous security man shooo-ing people on asap even when they were doing a bow. Very disrespectful security man.

Crustyjuggler92 · 17/09/2022 15:39

I went but only to support my mum going and definitely felt a little embarrassed about going. I'd say the actual thing is obviously not worth the queue and I think people who say it's well worth it either experienced it on a different emotional level or are lying! BUT if you take the whole experience together, it's something I'll never forget, I got to chat with my mum for 12 hours and, in the same way I enjoyed running a half marathon once, I quite enjoyed testing my limits. Met some interesting people, saw London at night and was something quite bizarre and unusual.

I asked my mum afterwards if she was glad we came. If she'd said no I may have chucked her in the Thames ;)

Demographic was very mixed in age, gender and race.

21secondstogo · 17/09/2022 15:39

I would imagine most people thought it was worth it.

I wonder how many people dropped out of the queue. I am the type who would think it was a good idea but I wouldn’t have stood in the cold for very long and would probably have given up and gone home.

mamabear715 · 17/09/2022 15:40

I would have loved to have gone.
My health's not up to it, sadly. I just very much wanted to BE there & say thank you, God Bless, in person. Nothing to do with history, North Korea, or being black, white, rich or poor. It really is that simple!

I signed the Church of England memoriam book & went to church to light a candle. Definitely have rather been in London or Scotland though.

bellac11 · 17/09/2022 15:43

miserablecat · 17/09/2022 15:11

I've been surprised by the amount of young children. I can understand adults wanting to do it but I've seen very young children who (even by MN standards 😉) I imagine are too young to have actually made a choice to pay their respects to the Queen. If they do remember it when they are older it might be "a very long, cold and boring wait for something not very exciting" rather than feeling proud you took part in a historical event.
Or maybe I am just being cynical!

I think you're right. I dont agree with children being taken, its not just the queue itself, lets say its 'only' 12 ghours, but then theres the getting to the queue, getting back from the queue, waiting for trains or buses,, getting food, finding the loos etc etc Nightmare

I dont have an issue with people who want to go but I admit a bit of a judgemental thing about people that just want to go to say they've been. I have more time for people who go who feel that it means something (even though I dont feel that for myself personally)

Someone at work is like this, banging on about how all of this is quite manipulative, get rid of the monarchy etc but then really liked the idea that her young adult daughter wants to go because all her friends are going and she doesnt want to be the one out of her mates who hasnt gone. Hypocrite.

I enjoy watching it all however.

GoingOnce · 17/09/2022 15:45

if all of these people could somehow have waited for 5 minutes or so and then walked straight in, without all the big build-up, whether many of them would actually have bothered to do so?

Very true. It’s so fascinating. We are tribal by nature. We follow the pack. “I needed to pay my respects” - what does it actually mean? All those younger people and foreigners, are they really there to pay some sort of homage to the British queen or are they gathering a memory for the future? I think the latter. No harm, of course but utterly fascinating. I must confess my guilty pleasure at the moment is to watch the live camera, especially late at night when I should be asleep. I can’t turn it off!

EmmaH2022 · 17/09/2022 15:47

lljkk · 17/09/2022 15:06

There was a bloke (Professor type) on R4 this morning who has random sampled the Queuers: said there wasn't any sort of strong bias in their social group. They came from all demographics, ages. Slightly more liberal than rest population and mostly there to express... gratitude. But were more from SouthEast so about as affluent as SE people. I was surprised because the crowd looked so white to me.

I actually didn't think the crowd looked "so white" but I'm not either so perhaps I notice it more, though - as unpopular as it is now - I'm not one to care much about colour

my parents were immigrants and my mum has been saying she feels many immigrants are more appreciative of the UK generally, and that she really noticed a high proportion of non whites in the crowd. She fell into the old trap of saying "immigrants" and I had to remind her she didn't know how many were born here.

I agree most people won't say if they left the queue. I also suspect many arrived and then looked at it, then pottered off to a pub or restaurant instead.

OneCup · 17/09/2022 15:48

I wonder if it's the whole history side of thing that must appeal. I would have been disappointed to only be allowed to spend a few seconds in front of the coffin!