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Parent/child spaces without the child

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Frogsalad · 12/09/2022 11:02

I'm curious how many people would admit to using a parent/child space when they don't actually have their child with them, or their child is remaining in the vehicle?

I feel like this might be like asking "admit you don't pick up your dog poo" but I see it so often loads of people must do it.

OP posts:
Michellexxx · 13/09/2022 09:54

Omg! They have changed, didn’t you know?

car seat requirements have changed, as have the size of cars.

But you could be right, the levels of courtesy has also changed. We all need to be hardy and always live just like it was 20 years ago, in the good old days.

Arbesque · 13/09/2022 10:20

Michellexxx · 13/09/2022 09:48

I’m honestly rather astounded by the comments on here claiming parents/mums have a sense of ‘entitlement’.. isn’t it called compassion?!
the fact others think that they should be allowed to park there, regardless of signs or other solaces, is surely a bigger example of entitlement?

If you have young children, you don’t want to traipse around a busy car park?

I admit to having called people out for this before several times, and not once has anyone had a decent excuse. I once had to reverse me car out to get the car seat back in the car when i saw a single man parking in the last p&c space- he said he was only ‘nipping’ into the bank and that space was closer than the others.

Of course it’s not legally enforceable (although it is private property) but I would’ve thought you’d extend the same courtesy to young families as you expect to yourself tbh..

Everyone is entitled to respect and compassion but I'm not sure why parents more so. Particularly ones who put their needs on a par with bb holders who are the ones who were called entitled.

Michellexxx · 13/09/2022 10:33

Arbesque · 13/09/2022 10:20

Everyone is entitled to respect and compassion but I'm not sure why parents more so. Particularly ones who put their needs on a par with bb holders who are the ones who were called entitled.

No one did put their needs on par with badge holders too? And I’m not sure where this obsession with badge holders on this thread is from? The op didn’t mention it at all.
Equally, no parent here, I believe, has asked for more compassion or courtesy either.

To be honest, neither has much to do with the other. There are, legally, plenty of disabled spaces, and some p&c spaces. With reasonable courtesy, people should be able to park in spaces which match whatever needs they have. and parents with young children do have more needs than middle aged single shoppers..

If the issue is where the disabled spaces are, then thats the issue that should be tackled. Not saying the p&c spaces are an example of entitlement and that parents shouldn’t be allowed this courtesy because people are unhappy with where the disabled spaces are.

so really, it seems, supermarkets should plan where disabled spaces are more, and then p&c Parker’s won’t be made to feel like monsters for feeling like they need the space.

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bbcdefg · 13/09/2022 10:36

No one did put their needs on par with badge holders too?

@Michellexxx you did. I quoted you

bbcdefg · 13/09/2022 10:38

This is the op:

I'm curious how many people would admit to using a parent/child space when they don't actually have their child with them, or their child is remaining in the vehicle?

So. I "admit" to using a parent and child space when I don't have a child with me as I am disabled and only fairly recently qualified for a blue badge. In fact I used one at the weekend as my badge was in my OH car.

It's literally answering the question the op asked

Michellexxx · 13/09/2022 10:38

bbcdefg · 13/09/2022 10:36

No one did put their needs on par with badge holders too?

@Michellexxx you did. I quoted you

No, you’re projecting. I said “others”- I didn’t say badge holders; and like I said, I’ve never encountered someone with a genuine excuse, and if disabled spaces are so awful as everyone here seems to think(although we don’t seem to have that issue here, hence no one having that reason to park in p&c) , then that would be fine.

Michellexxx · 13/09/2022 10:39

Again, it seems to be the disabled spaces that are the issue. Which has nothing to do with p&c spaces, so entirely unfair to say they should be obsolete and that anyone who thinks they have reason to use them, are entitled.

bbcdefg · 13/09/2022 10:41

There are rarely enough disabled spaces in the car parks I go to regularly - my local Tesco unless you're there very early in the morning or late at night the spaces are full. Same for the local municipal car park. Home Bargains is worse. I have given up trying to even go shopping there as I have never been able to get a disabled space and their spaces are so narrow I can't open my door wide enough to get out of my car and manoeuvre my crutches.

bbcdefg · 13/09/2022 10:41

Michellexxx · 13/09/2022 10:39

Again, it seems to be the disabled spaces that are the issue. Which has nothing to do with p&c spaces, so entirely unfair to say they should be obsolete and that anyone who thinks they have reason to use them, are entitled.

Who said that?

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 13/09/2022 10:42

We do if there are no disabled spaces available

LindaEllen · 13/09/2022 11:00

AGirlsNameIsAryaStark · 12/09/2022 11:10

I have, but only when I had really bad sciatica that getting out the car needed the door basically fully open and if there was no available space on an end. I would have been mortified if someone confronted me about it but there was genuinely no other way for me to get in and out the car.

Just out of curiosity, would you think it's ok for pregnant women to use the spaces? They don't have children to get in and out the car as such but would definitely need the extra door space.

I mean, there would be no denying they have a child with them..

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 13/09/2022 11:08

Sometimes I park in them even if there are BB spaces available. As the CP spaces are sometimes closer

Michellexxx · 13/09/2022 11:14

bbcdefg · 13/09/2022 10:41

Who said that?

Several previous posters who have said there’s really no need for p&c spaces

Tralalalalalalalalalala · 13/09/2022 11:15

I do it if I need to (without child). I don't need to give you a reason.

PeekAtYou · 13/09/2022 11:20

Or people who are parking there with no children should just park in normal spaces instead of them determining what time families can enter a shop 🫠

Having a blue badge definitely trumps being a parent with child and if you can't think of other groups of people who might need a bigger spot then you're very lucky not to need one.

Michellexxx · 13/09/2022 12:24

PeekAtYou · 13/09/2022 11:20

Or people who are parking there with no children should just park in normal spaces instead of them determining what time families can enter a shop 🫠

Having a blue badge definitely trumps being a parent with child and if you can't think of other groups of people who might need a bigger spot then you're very lucky not to need one.

Why does literally every comment here come back to being a blue badge holder?!

Michellexxx · 13/09/2022 12:25

Tralalalalalalalalalala · 13/09/2022 11:15

I do it if I need to (without child). I don't need to give you a reason.

The selfless society that we live in..

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 13/09/2022 12:26

Michellexxx · 13/09/2022 12:24

Why does literally every comment here come back to being a blue badge holder?!

Because as a BB holder I have been shouted at for parking in a CP space with no child.

Nitgel · 13/09/2022 12:34

I would park in one if I was taking my elderly dad out and there was no safe drop off point.

Arbesque · 13/09/2022 12:38

I have seen many posts on many threads where parents compare p&c spaces to BB spaces or wonder if its OK for them to park in a disabled space if the parent spaces are full. Or indeed begrudge a disabled person parking in a parent space.
That is the sense of entitlement I was talking about.

Arbesque · 13/09/2022 12:40

bbcdefg · 13/09/2022 10:41

Who said that?

No one said that.

sakuramiyagi · 13/09/2022 12:43

I once parked in parent and child when heavily pregnant (couldn't get out the car otherwise). I felt so guilty.

Never park in them without little one with me now he's here.

LolaLoo2 · 13/09/2022 12:51

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 13/09/2022 11:08

Sometimes I park in them even if there are BB spaces available. As the CP spaces are sometimes closer

Wow, selfish much? Taking up spaces that aren't designed for you when there are ACTUAL spaces left which have been designed specifically for you/disabled users that no one else can use.

Then people wonder why P&C users get so easily irritated...

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 13/09/2022 12:53

LolaLoo2 · 13/09/2022 12:51

Wow, selfish much? Taking up spaces that aren't designed for you when there are ACTUAL spaces left which have been designed specifically for you/disabled users that no one else can use.

Then people wonder why P&C users get so easily irritated...

I'm selfish? So you'd see a disabled person struggle to fucking walk just so you can park in a space a bit wider. How about fuck off.

Michellexxx · 13/09/2022 12:54

gatehouseoffleet · 12/09/2022 14:43

I've said this before, but I think there should be spaces for anyone to use who doesn't qualify for a blue badge. It might be someone who doesn't meet the threshold for a blue badge or someone with a temporary need like a broken leg. They'd be a better use of space than P&C spaces which aren't a need, just a want.

As Above for all
people saying that no one said there’s no need for p&c spaces- “aren’t a need, just a want”

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