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What is my DH citizen if he was born in Scotland but lives in England

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Yankydoodledandy · 09/09/2022 09:20

question on DS Uni form about father...

Son is asking is DH is a scottish citizen?

He was born Scotland but lives England so Ive said no...
as I assume citizen means lives there now???
Is this correct?

OP posts:
Cookerhood · 09/09/2022 09:21

British

JenniferBarkley · 09/09/2022 09:23

British.

If he wants to choose to identify as English or Scottish then I presume that's up to him as I don't think there's any legal meaning behind those words. Most people would identify with where they're born and raised, so presumably Scottish in your DH's case.

MrsMoastyToasty · 09/09/2022 09:23

British.
(My DH is Scottish and living in England).

Ageneralsenseofproundconcern · 09/09/2022 09:24

British

DogInATent · 09/09/2022 09:25

Your citizenship is what it says on your passport, not where you live. Assuming he holds a UK passport then he's British.

PAFMO · 09/09/2022 09:26

British Citizen assuming he was born before 1/1/83 and his parents were British.
Scottish, Welsh and English aren't nationalities in law.

Yankeedoodlekandle · 09/09/2022 09:27

British.

I'm Scottish born, married to an English man and live in Wales.

Tsort · 09/09/2022 09:27

Your DS is going to uni, but isn’t aware of the concept of British citizenship? And neither are you or your husband?

Sorry, but wtf?

Yankydoodledandy · 09/09/2022 09:28

I think the question is
are any of your parents a scottish citizen?

OP posts:
PAFMO · 09/09/2022 09:30

Yankydoodledandy · 09/09/2022 09:28

I think the question is
are any of your parents a scottish citizen?

Resident in Scotland? For fees etc possibly?

Mrsjayy · 09/09/2022 09:30

His citizenship is Brittish his nationality is scottish dependent on context he can say either.

Mrsjayy · 09/09/2022 09:31

Yankydoodledandy · 09/09/2022 09:28

I think the question is
are any of your parents a scottish citizen?

It isn't worded great is it ?

fruitbrewhaha · 09/09/2022 09:32

There's no such thing as Scottish citizenship. It means to be a legally recognised national from a country.

PAFMO · 09/09/2022 09:34

Mrsjayy · 09/09/2022 09:30

His citizenship is Brittish his nationality is scottish dependent on context he can say either.

Scottish isn't a nationality.
Under a totally independent Scotland (or Wales etc) a nationality law might be introduced.
For now, like it or not, Scottish, as pps have said, is personal identification, but has no legal meaning.
Residency in Scotland might confer some benefits for education (I don't know, my previous job was in Nationality not education)

Chersfrozenface · 09/09/2022 09:34

I suppose it's a bit complicated in the UK. In law there are 6 different types of British nationality, one of which is British citizenship.

The others are:
British overseas territories citizen
British overseas citizen
British subject
British national (overseas)
British protected person

Then there's the matter of "national identity" such as Scottish or English, which has no standing in law but which is often referred to as "nationality".

Mrsjayy · 09/09/2022 09:38

I mean you can "tick" if you are scottish etc on forms as well as British maybe that's what it means on his application he can tick his dad is scottish If he wants too.

ArnoldBee · 09/09/2022 09:39

I think context is key here. If it's a fees form for example then the context is wavering uni fees.

amatsip · 09/09/2022 09:40

Is this regarding uni?

MercurialMonday · 09/09/2022 09:47

As PP say nationality is British - but funding may depend on nationality and residency.

My children were born in England to English parents but should come under welsh university funding - because that's were we live and the rules allow this:

Your nationality and residency:
You can apply if all of the following apply:
you're a UK national, Irish Citizen or have settled status
you’ll be living in Wales on the first day of the first academic year of your course
you’ve been living in the UK and Islands for 3 years before starting your course

If it's for fees and funding I'd fine the official webpages pages with rules on and check

Frazzled2207 · 09/09/2022 09:48

No such thing as a Scottish citizen.
Scottish resident is definitely a thing.

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/09/2022 09:49

theres no such thing as Scottish citizenship. He’s British.
do they mean resident?

Suedomin · 09/09/2022 09:50

He is British. If it is for fees Do you mean residency? He and his father would only be classed as a Scottish resident if they lived there.

RoseAndRose · 09/09/2022 09:52

He is a British citizen

As your family is not resident in Scotland, then your DS will not qualify for Scottish home student terms (as that is based on residency)

But if DH prefers to self-identify as Scottish, your DS can put that on the form and it will be understood

Yankeedoodlekandle · 09/09/2022 09:53

Is your DC applying for a place at a Scottish University?

There are different rules for University fees and funding in Scotland and Wales to those in England. Even if your DC are applying for an English University.

If your DC isn't sure then the best thing to do is phone the uni and ask. My DF told me that going to University is basically learning how to fill in forms!

DistrictCommissioner · 09/09/2022 09:55

Does it definitely say Scottish citizen and not Scottish resident?