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The entitlement of (some) men

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Wenwes · 04/09/2022 20:30

This isn’t a man bashing thread as such - I have sons. But I also have a Dd and an incident occurred when she was out last night that has really saddened me.

Dd is 27. She was out with friends last night and a man approached her in a club asking if he could introduce his friend to her. She said yes, so first man brought his friend over, they chatted - all good. Then she learnt the friend was younger than her so explained that, for her, this was a no-go. The man argued with her a bit, but she said she was sorry, he was younger than one of her brothers, and it wasn’t a situation she was comfortable with.

A while later Dd was dancing and the first man brought another friend of his over to her. They danced for a bit and all was ok, but she was open about the fact that there would be nothing further. This second man went back to his friends and that was that.

Until - later, the 3 of them came back over to her and one of them threw their drink over her dress. Dd is well able to hold her own, and they were in a crowded place anyway so she wasn’t frightened, just annoyed. She asked them why they’d done that and was it just because she’d rejected advances from two of them? She told me they didn’t really answer her properly, just a lot of shrugging and smirking.

I mean really? I’d be horrified if any of my boys behaved like that. What was going through their minds? What if they hadn’t been somewhere busy and public? I know it’s a bit of a non-incident but it just shows how some men think.

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Soubriquet · 04/09/2022 20:33

Good on your dd for standing her ground.

That is pure entitlement you’re right.

They don’t like being told no.

dubyalass · 04/09/2022 20:40

It's not a non-incident though, it was intended to scare or humiliate her. Plus a number of women have been subject to acid attacks by men who wouldn't take no for an answer, the liquid could have been anything.

Did she tell anyone at the club? It may have been caught on CCTV. This needs nipping in the bud because it's completely unacceptable. Women need to feel safe going to nightclubs and similar venues, and any decent club should stamp out this kind of behaviour. I was a regular at an East London venue that got a rep for drinks being spiked, and we stopped going because management did fuck all about it.

mathanxiety · 04/09/2022 20:44

This was an assault, not something to shrug over. She should go back to the club and lodge a complaint against the men, all three of them.

Wenwes · 04/09/2022 20:48

I don’t think she was as bothered about it as I am so no, she didn’t tell anyone at the club. She did tell her friends, but only after they’d left. Actually, one of them is a policeman - I wonder what he told her. I’ll ask her about that when I speak to her tomorrow.

I just feel sad about it all. These men were only in their early 20’s.

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