Dog needs to go.

[Rehoming]

I'm posting on behalf of a friend. Friend is vulnerable and can be taken advantage of.

So she took a dog on from a friend. He told her it was good with kids family dog etc. Has been trained by a specialist?? He said if Any problems hes happy to take the dog back.

Dog was ok for few days seemed OK with her child who's 5 years old. But he child was sitting on the floor with a blanket dog sat on the blanket her child pulled the blanket and the dog went for the child . Child is not hurt.

At first the dog was ok to walk no pulling or anything but all of a sudden its started pulling and barking at people. Don't understand why the dog was ok for a few days then suddenly started pulling/barking.

So because of the above she asked him to take the dog back. As she can't risk her child. And he is refusing to take the dog. What can friend do ? The dog is microchipped to him.

Just to add . Yes she was a prat for getting the dog yes it was the wrong thing to do . Yes she should have looked deeper into it. But she can't change that now .

Just need to know what she can do . We are thinking RSPCA but would they actually take the dog?

tell her to take it to a shelter, and just be honest.

Also what is the breed because if its a banned breed....

So many irresponsible and stupid people involved in this mess.

@Rehoming Are you missing the posts asking you the breed? Or just ignoring them?

Just because she's stupid and gullible is no excuse for putting her child in danger. Never take a dog in that someone tell you "is fine" if you have a child in the house.

Feed and water it then tie the dog around a fence/lamppost/whatever (where it can't reach passers by) and call the relevant authorities, reporting that someone has left a dog tied up.

I would call the police. Particularly if it is a dangerous breed. They will take it to be euthanised if it has gone for a child. If you know it happened and that a child is in danger you are partly responsible for reporting the situation. People are complete fools about dogs and several people have been killed this year.

Perhaps the threat of the dog being put down might persuade the owner to take it back.

Dog was ok for few days seemed OK with her child who's 5 years old. But he child was sitting on the floor with a blanket dog sat on the blanket her child pulled the blanket and the dog went for the child . Child is not hurt.
At first the dog was ok to walk no pulling or anything but all of a sudden its started pulling and barking at people. Don't understand why the dog was ok for a few days then suddenly started pulling/barking

I don’t understand what you mean here OP.
‘ The child pulled the blanket and the dog went for the child. The child is not hurt’
What do you mean “The dog “went for” the child?

What makes a dog suddenly start pulling and barking at people? A dog who has been taught to walk well on a lead and who isn’t a barker (reactive to people) doesn’t suddenly start pulling on lead and barking at people without good reason.

Your story sounds like the dog has been badly let down by the people around him.

The best your “friend” can do is rehome the poor dog, via a rehoming centre. I hope the dog gets a loving home, soon. The poor dog hasn’t had a great life until now. He deserves so much better.

Poor poor dog!!! So the child startled the dog lying on the blanket and somehow it's the dogs fault for reacting!!! Poor poor dog!

Your friend should not have a dog if she doesn't know how to manage a dog and a child. They should never have been in the same space like that and the child should have been told that you don't mess with a sleeping or settled dog. I'm telling you now that the dog didn't go for her child. If it had the kid would be hurt or worse. The dog gave the kid a warning which shows huge restraint on the dogs part.

If your friend could not afford a dog upfront then I'm sorry but she can't afford a dog. She clearly doesn't know how to handle one so should never have one again.

Please ensure the poor dog is found a place at a responsible rescue and that your friend does not have further pets!

Clearly isn’t going to tell us what breed it is

Christ , I can’t wait for schools to go back 🙄🙄🙄, how pathetic

Please don’t do this. The dog has suffered enough. Also CCTV — if you or whoever abandons the dog is caught you can be prosecuted.
Call RSPCA, Dogs Trust, PDSA or breed rescue for the type of dog it is and be truthful.

Not pathetic, just practical - it's a dangerous animal that can't be around families. What do you think you should do - talk to it and try to understand its feelings?

The 'poor' dog doesn't know it's head from it's arse and is likely dangerous. It needs dealing with by pragmatic people not bleeding hearts.

From all the OP has said, the kid pulled a blanket out from under the dog and probably really startled it. A child should never be left alone to torment an animal. You can't say a dog is likely dangerous based on OP, we don't know that. The child shouldn't have been messing around near a dog.

Also the dog barked and pulled - not dangerous, just normal untrained dog behaviour.

I dont feel sorry for the owner, because if she's known to be vulnerable, someone has clearly okayed this in her family or friend group?

You can take lost dogs to a vets as well. There must be a vet in walkable distance.

If your friend is so vulnerable, does she not have anyone around looking out for her. Carers? Family? People that help with decisions? She believes anything that anyone tells her and she’s in charge of a young child? That’s very concerning. She could very easily put her child in an extremely dangerous situation if she believes bullshit. 🤔

Can your friend be trusted with a child if she is so “vulnerable”???

THIS! Honestly I read a lot on MN that makes me angry but this thread tops the lot. That poor dog!! Let one of us take them rather than leave them
tied to a lamppost to be stolen and butchered by dog fighters or other scumbags. Poor dog 😩😩

honestly with a child involved id get the dog the F out of the house today, take it to a kennel or vets and surrender it or tell them to euthanise it - sorry but its gone for a child i have ZERO issues in PTS when a child is involved!

Wow I went away for a bit and the comments have become quite nasty abd twisted. I will not ne coming back to the thread.

To people who have given non judgement and good practical advice thank you very much . My friend will be acting on them.

So she's been trying to get a puppy while knowing she doesn't have a vets within walking distance? How was she going to get a puppy to the vets for jabs and treatment in the case of accident or sickness? Can she do whatever she had planned?

Has she done any kind of research on how to manage a young child and a very new dog to the home together. This could very easily have happened had she gotten a puppy that she'd raised from scratch, a small child and a dig shouldn't be allowed to be that close without strict close supervision so a parent can stop the child making sudden movement like pulling a blanket from under it.

I agree that the dog needs to go but it doesn't sound like she has capacity for a puppy either. If she can't get to vets with a dog then she shouldn't be getting one really. So I'd try to make sure the people around her who know she's vulnerable and care for her, make sure she doesn't get pets and especially not pets that can hurt her child if she's too vulnerable to supervise closely and not let the dog too close to her child.

I wouldn't abandon it either. The last thing your friend needs is a local post of a dog tied up asking if anyone has seen who abandoned the dog, loads of people have ring doorbells for a start so she could easily have been several times walking that dog so she can't even say she's never seen it before.

If you think for one second she will forget to keep her child and her dog fully separated I'd ask her if her child wants to stay at yours until she's got the dog to a shelter or a vet.

She could lie and say she's found it wandering but she can easily be caught out if the person she's got it from says to ask a neighbour and lying would just make her look she's got something to hide so she'd be better off telling the truth and if it's a bully breed like people are suggesting there's specialist rehoming charities she might be able to contact too.

Right now the charity rescues are full. Yet there are plenty of clueless posters oblivious to the cost of living crisis unfolding around them saying it won't be a problem, the charities will take in the dog if you ask them nicely and smile. The rescue charities won't. They need you to book in your animal in advance and they are full. They have waiting lists for places in the system.

The dog warden service won't pick-up a loose dog. It must be secured. But the warden service must pick-up a reported stray dog that's been secured for collection. That means it's either been caught by a member of the public who's fitted it with a rope/leash, it's been secured in a garden/yard, or it's been reported found abandoned and tied up. I'm pretty sure our rescue dog came into the system after being tied up and reported as abandoned - based on a conversation I had with the rescue and the contracted warden service. It's very common.

I'm not going to advise for or against any particular course of action, but the reality is that dog warden service is probably the only route that might get the dog into the rescue system. But, right now with the system full to bursting the odds are not good as to the outcome for the dog after the 4-6 week period in the pound (usually a local private kennels under contract to the council these days) waiting to be claimed by an owner.