Is the price worth it- supporting Ukraine ?

[lovethehighlands]

People all over are complaining how we are being eaten out of house and home with this ridiculously huge energy bills on the way in Jan 2023 £4,500 cap rising to £6,000 ! that's £500 a month! forget about the mortgage, petrol and grocery !

we can't have it both ways we either stand with Ukraine and put up with it and and end up in debt or on the street or button up and accept whatever cap the government says we must have.

Or we could do what other countries do at least buy stuff from the Russians and still support Ukraine at the same time. Their must be a limit to do all this support?

Surely we must be utterly mad bending over backwards like this for them. How many trillions did we waste trying to help Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq with nothing to show for it?

I normally don't get into politics but aren't we literally destroying ourselves for a far away country that has nothing to do with us. How exactly is a Russia a threat to us when they can't even move past a few border towns in Ukraine?

BP and Shell is making billions in profits. Surely their is another agenda out their to rinse us of all our savings (no i am not a KGB bot, i drink Teachers and not vodka)

(rant over!)

Your lack of interest in politics is showing, OP. This is bigger than just the price of gas.

and yes, worth it.

agreeing with @ZenNudist here btw

Absolutely.

Ukraine is the country stopping Putin from invading Europe and a Third World War.
If that happens everything will get a lot worse.

The counterfactual is world war 3

HTH

Your ignorance and naïveté is astonishing. But I’m so sorry that one country invading another has been so hard for you personally. I just hope that if anything happens to the uk people won’t call you a backwater. Like you don’t matter.

Yes, it is worth it, because the price of NOT supporting Ukraine now is unquestionably too high.

The solidarity and support offered to Ukraine by its allies is invaluable and life sustaining.

Today, 24 August, is Ukrainian Independence Day (День незалежності України), the 31st anniversary of Ukraine's Declaration of Independence in 1991. Ukraine has a right to sovereignty and self-determination, as we all do.

Russia is a dictatorship with a nutter in charge who is bloody dangerous and has access to nukes.

I don't know what the answer is op but I do know that since the war started Billions has still been going to Putin for gas!

Buy from Russia but support Ukraine?!!!!

The cost of not supporting Ukraine is too high

The cost of the war is high because incompetent governments here and in Europe never think about food water and energy security in anything but short term economic terms - they took a bet , lost it so we have to pay up

Precisely what i'm saying. A two faced policy that is beneficial for us.
Buy his gas at discount rates like India and others are but at the same time funnel arms to Ukraine secretly and deny it.

We would still be flush with cash and still supporting Ukrainian democracy.
That's how to do the clever way. 🙃

oh get over. Lets see anyone try it with us. They will regret the day they were put on this earth with the capabilities Britain possesses and what we would do to them.

We would have been invaded by Germany if we didn't have US support. But at least at that time we had the bravery to stand up to Hitler. Britain's finest hour..

Churchill would be rolling in his grave if we didn't support Ukraine. Our grandparents and great grandparents put up with far worse. We are no longer a world power but at least we could have moral integrity

@lovethehighlands - I realise that's what you're saying. I quoted from your post. Still cannot decide if it's a wind up or if you are genuinely this naive / clueless / stupid. You chose.

@lovethehighlands - what capabilities do you think Russia possesses?!

Yea right. You really think that the average uk citizen would drop everything and pick up arms? That the pm would volunteer to stay behind not get the first flight out they could?
you are clearly winding ppl up. Or delusional.

Unfortunately that will also be the day that we are regretting being put on this Earth, too.

Let me guess OP, you love Boris, voted for Brexit and think “good old Blighty” is the envy of the world.

Wake up and grow up.

When are you back to school OP ? Hope its soon

It’s not all due to the war in Ukraine as pp’s have pointed out. Even if it was, it’d be worth it to fight against the atrocities by Putin the warmonger. Your OP leaves a very nasty “I’m alright Jack” taste….doesn’t matter what happens to them as long as you’re not affected. Very nasty indeed.

Hitler didn’t have nuclear bombs that can reach London in 2 minutes either.
times have changed so has warfare.

Fun times, a nuclear war. It would be a MAD situation, there would be no winners and certainly not in the UK.

Europe is on a knife edge. As Finland joins NATO it means Russia has a direct border with NATO. If they go into Finland all of NATO will be in the conflict. We should all be doing whatever we can to squash Putin's imperial ambitions.

oh get over. Lets see anyone try it with us. They will regret the day they were put on this earth with the capabilities Britain possesses and what we would do to them.

Oh you're one of those. All hail the mighty British Empire, mine is bigger than yours.