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Shopaholic friend: should I say something?

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Tabbouleh · 14/08/2022 14:25

Bit of a long one; I don't want to drip feed. I have a uni friend whom I have known since I was 18. Let's call her M. We are both in our fifties. We also have a mutual close friend, let's call her P, who is older.

For as long as I have known her, M has been a shopaholic. She is exactly like Becky in the Shopaholic novels. She spends a lot on high fashion, shoes, make up and so on, to the point that her wardrobes are full of unworn stuff. The other thing that she spends on is travel. Her plans are always changing, so she keeps cancelling and rebooking flights. She only flies business class and eats in fine restaurants. She has a nomadic lifestyle between several countries.

She funds all this because she has a good job, and no DC or plans to have any. She does not own a home, and rents, which suits her fine. Almost zero savings. So far, so none of my business, because she never asks me for a loan or anything.

M has recently got married to B at the age of nearly 50. B is a consultant and his income is irrregular. B is also blue collar and very frugal , so I do not think they are compatible financially. M continues to spend as she always has done.

Our mutual friend P is very worried and thinks I should speak to her because M and I live in the same city ( when she is not travelling), and P is far away. She thinks M is out of control and B is not happy about it.

Whenever I have diplomatically suggested to M that she rein her spending, she has reacted defensively, exactly like Becky does in the novels. For instance, if I suggest she doesn't need a new suit because she is now full time WFH, she will bring up a conference she might be invited to and therefore she might need a suit etc etc.... If I suggest meeting in a cheaper cafe, she will argue that she might get food poisoning. etc etc. It gets so tedious that I have stopped saying anything. Sometimes she drags me along on her shopping trips and I get a physical pain in my stomach watching her blow 200 quid on makeup that she does not need, but any hints are ignored. I have quite a lot on my own plate to worry about.

Should I just mind my own business? I would intervene if she were an alcoholic or suffering domestic abuse, but I just feel like she is a grown woman and can sort herself out. P disagrees.

OP posts:
LittleBearPad · 14/08/2022 16:07

It’s none of P’s business is it.

MrsWooster · 14/08/2022 16:13

I wouldn’t intervene but I also wouldn’t enable. You talk about it being unpleasant for you to go shopping with her so perhaps start to step back -tell her that you know she loves it but it doesn’t feel ok to you, you don’t enjoy it, and you’re not going to do it any more.
You’ve done a lot of meeting on her terms, by the sound of it. Perhaps it’s time for her to meet on yours.

TokyoTen · 14/08/2022 16:29

I'd leave it and wouldn't mention it. If P wants to then up to them but don't get involved. If B isn't happy with what M does then they need to sort it out together - maybe B likes M's frivolous side! Either way it's no one's business but their's and I'd tell P that.

MiauzenKatzenjammer · 14/08/2022 16:53

Just don't go on the shopping trips. And maybe cool the relationship with P, who sounds like a prize nosey parker.

BarbaraofSeville · 14/08/2022 16:59

Surely this is between M and B, unless M is expecting B to bankroll her lifestyle, but even if she is, it's not up to you or P to sort out?

I'd detach somewhat and not accompany her on shopping trips, but that would be more about a shopping trip not being my idea of a nice day out.

Tabbouleh · 14/08/2022 17:40

Thanks all. Glad there is consensus.

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wherearebeefandonioncrisps · 14/08/2022 17:53

I don't think that you can help a spendaholic.

She is clearly finding that buying nice things gives her a buzz that is, unfortunately very short lived. And so the spending carries on.

It is a mental health problem but not one that you can help her with.

Just , maybe, be there for when it all catches up with her. And it will, it always does.

DDivaStar · 14/08/2022 18:00

Tbh its none of your business.

If you Re concerned about her financially ioj voukd ask her if she has planned for the future. Ask her about pensions , savings etc as she will always have rent to pay. Although learning snout finances at 50 is probably a bit late !

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