What’s with all these dog attacks?

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Seems like there’s loads and just read about another. Not sure if it’s always been this was or if the news is just reporting it more.

it always seems to be disproportionately terrier types involved, I’m not a dog person so don’t know if it’s their natural temperament etc. Just feels like there’s so many at the moment. I wonder if they’ll add other breeds to the banned list of dangerous dogs or if it’s more to do with owners and upbringing.

I think there have been 4-5 fatal dog attacks so far this year by Bully XL dogs. I wish they would ban them. All the owners I've seen have been arseholes. The most obvious reason to buy a dog which people are intimidated by is to intimidate people.

It's a combo of lots of things. Backyard breeding is encouraged and funded constantly. Responsibility is at zero level. Accountability is also zero.

I lost my last dog 18 months ago and I don't see myself ever having another because other dog owners make it so unpleasant.

I know i'll get jumped on but I can't understand why anyone would want one of these dogs. I'm not long back from the pub and there was one of these bully things at the next table. In fairness, the dog was very friendly with people, but anytime somebody with another dog walked by the man had to hold it back by bracing himself against the bench...

Those Bully XL dogs need to be banned. The damage they do is immense. They aren't normal dogs. Checkout the Reddit sub /r/BanPitBulls for a collation of why.

I don't hate dogs but I don't understand why so many people have them as pets.

I love dogs. More than people. But most people shouldn't have most dogs. We bred them to assist us. The vast vast majority of dogs aren't pets for bored people.

Too many dogs. 13 million is too many.
www.statista.com/statistics/515379/dogs-population-in-the-united-kingdom-uk/

No seen this where I live but I suspect the vast amount of Covid puppies and lack of training is something to do with it!

A truly terrifying dog…. I would never blame the dog. The owner on the other hand.

Bull breeds should be banned.

The sheer volume of dogs (and the popularity of those huge, strong breeds) being owned by complete fucking dickheads is making this sadly inevitable. The number of pet dogs in the UK has increased by over a million in the last few years. There are over 10 million pet dogs. It only takes a tiny percentage of them being dangerous to result in a lot of attacks and sadly some deaths. It’s too many.

Probably repeating previous posts, but a few factors to consider.
Firstly, seeing owning a dog as right, rather than a privilege. We lost our GSD during the first lockdown. As much as it upsets me, we are not in a position to give a big dog all it needs right now, so we are dogless.

Also, I think a part of it is treating small dogs as teddies, rather than dogs. Behaviour that would be terrifying in big dogs is seen as cute in smaller dogs.

Lastly, training in general. My GSD was a pain in the arse for the first 3 years on a sliding scale. We put the work in, every day. Then when he went deaf at 9yo, we put the work in again to retrain him with hand signals, rather than verbal commands. We never let his behaviour impact on anyone else. By the time he died, he was a bombproof veteran who lived with 4 cats and two children. I miss him everyday, but comfort myself that I am a good enough dog owner not to own a dog right now.

Boston terriers......stop being so fucking ignorant.

list of bull breeds

American Pit Bull Terrier

Staffordshire Terrier

Staforshire Bull Terrier

Bull Terrier

Miniature Bull Terrier

American Bulldog

English Bulldog

Olde English Bulldog

Dogo Argentino

Cane Corso

Dog de Bordeux

Mastiffs

Boxers

Rottweilers

Boston Terriers

French Bulldog

You'd have Boxers, French bulldogs, English bull dogs and Bostons banned? really?

I'm worried that a combination of public hysteria stemming from ignorance and fear coupled with the absolute shit show that is the average XXL bully owner will see to it that all bull breeds get banned.

Note: XXL bully is not a recognised pure breed dog. It's an unrecognised mix of several breeds including pittie. Any numpty can breed a 'bullie' type dog, and they are. Recently breeding XXLs with mastiff and cane corso to create bigger dogs.

Banning won't work. What is needed is strict licensing laws on who can keep a dog, and who can breed a dog.

Dogs shouldn't be let loose to approach people though, and they are, as pp have described.
It's up to the owners to be in control of their animal. It's not up to others to know how to behave around the various breeds of dog - why on earth should it be? They are solely the owner's responsibility. Unless the victim is also the owner it's ridiculous to claim a dog attack is in any way the victim's fault.

So a person who deliberately bates a dog should take no responsibility whatsoever?

@MiniTheMinx A Rottweiler isn’t a bull breed.

I get what someone said about it being summer/lack of parliament news to report etc but dog bites have increased:

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/apr/15/dog-bite-britain-the-problem-with-the-pandemic-puppy-explosion

Yes, it's got nothing to do with dogs being off the lead in public

A dog off the lead is a dog that's not under control

You'd have Boxers, French bulldogs, English bull dogs and Bostons banned? really?

For health reasons, 100%. Boxers don't suffer with bad breeding too much as they're not that popular really, but the others are so overbred that they can't breathe or give birth naturally anymore.

And yet humans see no issue with them and happily pay several grand to own one.

Bad breeding leads to unwell dogs who become aggressive because they physically can't have the exercise and outlets they need to be healthy, happy pets.

I think a lot of dog owners have no idea ( or no inclination )how to train a dog. Seen a lot of very poor dog ownership lately, lockdown puppies probably did not help the situation. Lots of dog attacks round here ( mainly on sheep but still horrific). Owners usually just run off and take no responsibility.

What rubbish . I've had them all my life and they are wonderful dogs . Ban the ferals who buy them more like

All these dog attacks have a common denominator don't they .

Owned by undesirables on sink estates as they think it's the only way to get some respect in their miserable lives . You don't hear of these attacks by responsible people .

Dogs are kept in entirely unsuitable surroundings with no training , stimulation or exercise .

These people then see the money to be made so start breeding and sell them to their equally scummy mates .

Introducing dog licences will have zero affect as these people won't buy them and who on earth can possibly enforce it . Police can't even investigate a burglary these days never mind dog licences .

Indiscriminate breeding needs to be banned and only those with suitable homes and the responsibility to train should be allowed a pet

I've no idea of the stats but I agree it does seem like an increase in news stories, and not just silly season as I feel like it's been over the last year or two.

If there is an increase it wouldn't surprise me. Both lockdown and fashion have increased the number of owners - the number of friends I have who had no jntetest in dogs previously but then bought one quite suddenly because the kids wanted one amazes me. As I hear it, training digs properly us quite a skill, and I dont believe all these new owners understood quite what needs to go into it.

Also, As pp said, with certain breeds they are specifically fashionable for looking tough, so bound to be disproportionately owned by quite aggressive owners or those who are more interested in training to defend / be security than safety.

I'm guessing the increase in demand and therefore price has also led to more irresponsible breeders.

I would say, from the point of view of someone who has never owned a dog, doesn't want to and whose child is actively scared of them, but does live in a popular dog walking area , dog owners having dogs off leads and not doing anything to stop them approaching other people or dogs, even when there and clearly frightened small children, because 'they're friendly ' is a bigger issue than children not being taught not to approach. I realise my experience will skew that view, but if my child was one who wanted to pet the dogs, i think it would be really hard to drum in the message not to when I see to be so surrounded by such laid back dog owners! They'd get really mixed messages. I'm talking so laid back they don't even tell their dog off or apologise if they kick the face of a child strapped in a buggy (yuck and terrifying for a toddler!)

I wouldn't want a dog because i see what a huge responsibility they are, but so many people seem to see them as something that is the norm for all families to have now, not a massive decision with a significant health and safety risk to be mitigated.

Yes definitely the victim's fault that a dog savages them

Whenever a stranger approaches me I bite them in the face, obviously

Yes the numbers have increased, and I read had increased by more than just in line with the increased number of dogs - so there are more dogs, but they are also more likely to bite.