What should DD do? Work dilemma

[MrsWicket]

Background- DD (17) has got her first part time job to work along side her college studies. Small business. Very excited at finally be earning some money, so booked a holiday for next summer.
Came home all worried today. Informed her boss (who is the owner) about the holiday, who told her that she was going to book those weeks off and could she change her holiday dates. Said she can’t have more than one person off at any one time and should have told her at the interview stage (holiday wasn’t booked then. Didn’t have contract of employment then either.)
DD can’t move the dates forward as she has end of college year exams, and moving it back will make it more expensive. She’s worried she’s going to lose her job or the boss angry with her if she tells her she can’t move her dates. Boss has not actually booked a holiday, whereas DD has. It’s taken ages for DD to find a job in the sector she’s training for, so she doesn’t want to lose it - or her holiday. What does she do? Thanks

I think the boss is being a dick.

The boss may usually have that week off, but doesn't have anything booked yet and hasn't actually booked it off yet?

Looks like someone else got there first.

It would have to be the job of a lifetime for a 17 year old to let a part time role impact on next summer's holidays.
Smile and nod then find a new job next year sometime. She'll be 18, with lots of experience so plenty to make her employable.

And yes she's learned something about asking for leave that will be valuable when she joins the workforce full time.

She shouldn't have booked the holiday without checking but it's done now.

As a teen with a part time job, I'd tell the boss she'd changed the holiday to keep the peace and concentrate on finding a new job before the trip. If it's not til next year she's got plenty of time.

This is what people mean when they talk about the entitlement of the younger generation in the workplace!

Keep the holiday, work the year, bin the job then just look for something new.

It will be interesting to see what they do in a year's time. If her performance is good they won't want her to leave over a holiday. I suspect in this labour market there is a lesson for the employer and your daughter.

I really don’t think this is entitlement. It’s a year away. The boss is being a dick. What she should do is say she’s moved the holiday but not actually move it, then hand in her notice next year before she goes.

for a holiday next summer?? she smiles and nods at boss and hands her notice in before going away. if she is even there, as you will find this is the start of some funny boss stuff....

Are you serious? Everybody knows the rules: you don't book a holiday until you've got the time off approved. It may be more casual in smaller companies, but the above principle still remains.

Totally agree. I mean what is she actually doing in this part time college job, leading a department?

Yes when she gets a proper permanent job by all means ask first etc but I wouldn’t be changing the dates for this, no way.

Works for me and I've been in continous employment since leaving education 15 or so years ago.

It really isn't. This is a child you're slagging off. She's made a mistake that she will learn from. It's not the end of the world and it's not entitlement.

Well you don’t tell your boss what dates you are having off.

You request it. It’s been declined so she moves her dates.

She shouldn’t of booked it until she had the time off confirmed.

Christ you lot she's a 17year old college student working a part time job! I'd literally smile sweetly, say I'd changed the dates and look for something else nearer the time. Not the end of the world.

What’s the dilemma?

Good for you.

But it's not standard to just book whenever you want under the expectation that management sort it.

You've just happened to book holiday when there's no issues. I have never ever had leave refused in my 25 years of being in the workplace. But I still request the leave and book it after its granted.

Not really. The 17yo didn't know that you request leave and then book it once it is confirmed, or assumed that a years notice was plenty.

Entitled would her taking leave without requesting it, or turning up late and still expecting to get paid, and not making the time up or just not turning up because of a rubbish reason etc.

That’s so dickish and wrong. No 17yo is cover for a boss.

It was insanely entitled of the management to think they could dictate a part-timers holiday dates a year in advance. I’d have told the boss to FO - and I’m in my forties.

Your daughter is 17, this is a part time job fitting alongside her studies.

Tell the boss what she wants to hear. Your daughter will have moved on before next year anyway.

There is no way a part time student job is equivalent to the boss's job.

I’ve just lost a long reply but I used to recruit and manage a large number of young people and I wouldn’t have expected them to prioritise their part time job above everything else, plenty of time for that when you’re older and dependant on the job. In the course of a year the employer could decide new employee wasn’t suitable and fire them, new employee could decide new job didn’t suit them and resign so I wouldn’t change the holiday now, just look for a new job nearer the time if it came to it. Unless it’s an amazing once in a lifetime job ( unlikely) there are plenty more jobs available part time at 17 surely, all the cafes, takeaways, hotels and shops in our town are desperate for staff and care and cleaning work are also always available.