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What help do I need with DS11?

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Olivemitteridge · 30/07/2022 22:06

Apologies if this isn’t the right section to post in but I wasn’t sure where to put this.

Basically, I’m concerned about my young son. He’’s 11, an only child and his father and I are divorced. He sees his father EOW and generally adores him, even though his father is unreliable and has let my son down on various occasions and in various ways eg cancelling weekend visits at the last minute, over promising much anticipated treats that then don’t happen, etc. His father and I do communicate but we are not on particularly good terms and my son is aware of this.

The issue, however, seems to be me. In the past six months or so, my son has started to become verbally aggressive with me, swearing at me etc, and he has started to push against me physically. I’m not tall, and he’s pretty much my height already. The smallest thing i.e. not being able to find his charger can set off his temper. He shouts, and almost seems to revel in his ‘voice’. He is pretty unpleasant and personal I do my best to keep calm and have got much better at this as raising my voice just escalates things but in the past I have really struggled to contain my temper and we have almost ended up wrestling. I know how awful this is. The next day he says sorry but I feel this has just become a pattern and nothing is different the next time.

I’m really so anxious about it as he seems to really have a problem with me and I wonder if he’s really taking out his frustrations about dad on me. I’m treading on eggshells at home at times to prevent an outburst, and at times it feels worse than the marriage I left. It’s isolating, I feel like I can’t invite people round in case he makes a scene (he’s almost quite possessive of me, asks me if I have a boyfriend, what I’ve done when he’s away with dad). I feel ashamed he’s like this, as I imagine it must somehow be my fault. At times I feel real dislike for him which obviously makes me feel even worse. Of course I love him very much, we have always been a team as I left when he was just 4, but this is all making me feel sad and worried for him. He starts secondary in September so it’s a changeable time but this all feels more than that.

Anyone been in a similar situation and can offer advice? I really want to improve things before he hits the proper teen years.

I am happy to try and see a counsellor and would probably need to fund that myself as it’s unlikely I’d get any help I expect, but I’m not sure who to approach or who could help. A counsellor who works with children? Somebody who could help him manage his anger or iron out what may be some fundamentally difficult issues?

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coodawoodashooda · 30/07/2022 22:07

That sounds awful. Personally I would contact social work and the school.

Olivemitteridge · 30/07/2022 22:16

Thanks for replying Coodawoodashooda.

in some ways I was relieved that you said it’s awful. It is, yes, but I can’t really talk to anyone about it, it’s hard to know what it is if that makes sense.

He’s only starting secondary in Sept, I don’t feel I can talk to them yet as they won’t know him (and I don’t want to start him off on a negative foot - i might be wrong thinking this though).

Not sure about a social worker either. What would they do? Sorry to sound clueless.

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Haggisfish3 · 30/07/2022 22:23

I can recommend something like this-I think positive male role models are important. Www.Journeymanuk.org

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Blofield · 30/07/2022 22:32

Be consistent in your approach. Don’t be afraid to say no. Don’t be afraid to the parent not his friend. If he can’t find his charger don’t feel you have drip everything that second at find it.
I say this as a parent who didn’t do the above and my eldest was a bloody nightmare always complaining of noise the family made
One time they complained how unfair it was that x child switched the front room light on and it woke them up because x child switched the button too loud.
it was at that point I told them to fuck off, grow up and move out if they hated us all so much! They were 18 at the time took another 4 years till they did leave

awful as it sounds created that person and because I didn’t want conflict shit happened.

Howmanysleepsnow · 30/07/2022 23:18

Whereabouts are you? I can recommend an organisation near me (and it’s free!)

SmokedTofu · 30/07/2022 23:28

I would speak to the GP and they may be able to refer/ signpost. Some of the behaviours don't sound too dissimilar to my DS9, he was referred to CAMHS and we're now getting some much needed support.

Olivemitteridge · 31/07/2022 13:24

Thanks. I did wonder about seeing the GP.
I think we need some help and if they could refer that would be a good start I suppose, although maybe there’s a very long wait.

would they refer us to a child counsellor/therapist?

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Haggisfish3 · 31/07/2022 15:23

They will refer you to cahms.

Softplayhooray · 31/07/2022 15:29

Olivemitteridge · 31/07/2022 13:24

Thanks. I did wonder about seeing the GP.
I think we need some help and if they could refer that would be a good start I suppose, although maybe there’s a very long wait.

would they refer us to a child counsellor/therapist?

My knee jerk reaction was to think he's seeing this at his dad's perhaps even directed at him, and he's also worried about secondary school in Sept. Could that be the case? I have no idea of course I don't know his dad, just was the first thing I thought of.

Olivemitteridge · 31/07/2022 18:15

i think it’s more that my son can’t get near his dad emotionally - it’s all very surface chat, mainly football, nothing wrong with that but with the unreliability and general lack of warm parenting, there’s a deficiency there. My son is astute enough to know this, and because I’m the ‘safe’ parent - but also the one that enforces bedtimes, homework, says no etc - it’s easier to act up with me. There’s a massive lack of boundaries.

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Mindthegob · 31/07/2022 18:21

You are the only person who he feels safe lashing out at. It sounds like he is stressed and scared. What good things does he have going on in his life?

The trick is to stay calm, ignore the words and listen to the emotion behind it. Personally, I have unconditionally supported my kids because everyone needs someone who is on their side. I don’t let them take the piss though. Treating your kids with respect, giving them options and independence will help- sometimes they feel really frustrated that they have no power or independence.

If they are bored, lonely, bullied, shuttled between two houses there might be a lot to unpick there.

I am sorry you are suffering anxiety. Could you think of the outcome you would like to achieve and work backwards from there? I always say how can I get the best outcome for everyone? It reminds me not to be impulsive, rude or react in the moment but to think longer term.

Mindthegob · 31/07/2022 18:22

When mine were like that I would laugh it off and it worked. If he wants a rise out of you, don’t give him it

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