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Please explain this maths question?

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listsandbudgets · 20/07/2022 17:56

My son (10) assures me it's perfectly simple and the answer is 122 but I've no idea whether he's right or if so why so if he's wrong I can't even correct him Blush I'm mortified that I can't do a question aimed at a 10 year old - maths was never my strong point.. but I'm clearly worse than I thought. Actually feeling quite rubbish about it so please be kind to me.

Find the next number in this sequence

2, 5 , 14, 41

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R1408 · 20/07/2022 17:58

Have you asked him why he thinks that number is right?

Heretochill · 20/07/2022 17:59

If you double the number then add on one less.

so 41 x 2 = 82, then add on 40 ☺️

NightJohnBoy · 20/07/2022 18:00

You add 3, 3 Squared, 3 cubed etc, 3 to the power of 4 etc

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Dammitthisisshit · 20/07/2022 18:00

to get to the next number in the sequence you multiply by 3 then take away 1, so 122 would be correct

BuwchGochGota · 20/07/2022 18:01

(2 x 3) - 1 = 5
(5 x 3) - 1 = 14
(14 x 3) - 1 = 41
(41 x 3) - 1 = 122

He's correct 😁

listsandbudgets · 20/07/2022 18:01

R1408 · 20/07/2022 17:58

Have you asked him why he thinks that number is right?

He muttered something about the 9 times table, told me I wouldn't understand anyway and wandered off to bounce on the trampoline.

Now sitting here feeling rubbish :(

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heldinadream · 20/07/2022 18:01

2 plus 2 plus 2 is 6 minus 1 is 5
5 plus 5 plus 5 is 15 minus 1 is 14
41 plus 41 plus 41 is 123 minus 1 is 122

R1408 · 20/07/2022 18:02

It looks like maybe he is multiplying the difference in previous numbers by 3?

So 2+3 = 5
then 5 + (3x3) = 14
then 14 + (3x9) = 41
then 41 + (3x27) = 122

Shgytfgtf111 · 20/07/2022 18:03

Yeah it's x3-1

AppleKatie · 20/07/2022 18:04

I have always found these ridiculously difficult. I think I must have missed that week at school 😂

Balonder · 20/07/2022 18:04

2 (+3¹ or 3=) 5 (+3² or 9 =)14 (+3³, or 27 =) 41 (+3⁴ or 81=) 122
Hope that makes sense

listsandbudgets · 20/07/2022 18:07

Thanks everyone - apparently number patterns are "really good fun".

I blame DP he did not inherit this from me Grin

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listsandbudgets · 20/07/2022 18:16

@AppleKatie You've made me feel better that I'm not alone - it's rather embarrassing really and the trouble is that I'm beginning to feel like I missed most weeks of maths at school.

DD's just done GCSEs and to be honest the majority of the maths, chemistry and physics was absolute gobbledygook as far as I was concerned. She wants to do them for A Level, so that's me finished!

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Clymene · 20/07/2022 18:32

Shgytfgtf111 · 20/07/2022 18:03

Yeah it's x3-1

Yes, this makes complete sense and is where I got.

Everyone trying to explain just complex equations, no thanks. Why do you have to complicate if?

BarbaraofSeville · 20/07/2022 18:54

AppleKatie · 20/07/2022 18:04

I have always found these ridiculously difficult. I think I must have missed that week at school 😂

It's about spotting patterns. It's probably not something you can learn quickly, like the 10 x table. You need a knack for it and practice/experience.

BuwchGochGota · 20/07/2022 19:10

Clymene · 20/07/2022 18:32

Yes, this makes complete sense and is where I got.

Everyone trying to explain just complex equations, no thanks. Why do you have to complicate if?

Who used complex equations?

Mistymountain · 20/07/2022 19:39

I do it this was:
difference between 2 and 5 = 3
3x3=9, then 9 + 5 =14
multiply 9 by 3 = 27
then 14 + 27 = 41
multiply 27 by 3 = 81
then 41+ 81 = 122
He's right

devonianBiatch · 21/07/2022 08:09

I'm a fully grown woman trying to pass my maths GCSE and I can promise you that desire being in the top set at school and dropping out in year 10, I do not remember ANYTHING past basic 56x4 type multiplication. Never mind trying to get the information on number patterns to stick in my brain. At least 3 times a week I'll spend an hour on or and think YES! I've got it! But two days later I'm back at the beginning mouth and finger reading the instructions. Oddly though, I remember graphs and coordinates really well? Angles are okish as are fractions. But covering fractions to decimals? Jog on !

theclangersarecoming · 21/07/2022 08:22

R1408 · 20/07/2022 18:02

It looks like maybe he is multiplying the difference in previous numbers by 3?

So 2+3 = 5
then 5 + (3x3) = 14
then 14 + (3x9) = 41
then 41 + (3x27) = 122

Yes it’s this.

When doing sequences, the easiest method is to find the difference between the numbers, then see what the pattern is. In this case the difference is:

3, 9, 27

— which are all multiples of 3 (the child should recognise this from times tables). The next figure is 27x3 so you add 81 to the original sequence to get 122.

The trick with sequences is to keep looking at the differences between the numbers (and turning these into a new sequence), until you spot an obvious pattern: then work back to the original sequence by adding the next term in the pattern.

cakeorwine · 21/07/2022 08:29

Ask him to see if he could work out what the nth term formula would be....

That might blow his mind.

Soontobe60 · 21/07/2022 08:32

Your son is correct.
multiply the number by 3 and subtract 1
2x3 = 6 - 1 = 5
5x3 = 15 - 1 = 14
14x3 = 42 - 1 = 41
41x3 = 123 - 1 =122

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