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Average age of male death in uk?

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heypp · 20/07/2022 15:50

I know this can be found online but I don’t know anyone who died before 85! And the statistics seem to vary anyway? Is it different between Scotland and Wales and England?

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heypp · 20/07/2022 15:51

It’s to settle an argument, not to bump anyone off 😂

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emmathedilemma · 20/07/2022 15:55

I'm not sure what your question is?? It will vary between sources depending on the assumptions made in calculating the average e.g. some will take average age of people when they died, others are using life expectancy of people at birth etc. If you want to settle an argument then I would use the Office of National Statistics www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/bulletins/nationallifetablesunitedkingdom/2018to2020

DaisyDozyDee · 20/07/2022 15:56

Are you really saying you’ve never known anyone male who died before the age of 85? That would really be extraordinary.

Tallisker · 20/07/2022 16:09

Well my dad died at 65 and my FIL at 83 so both before 85. A friends son died at 15 so that brings the average down a bit

MintJulia · 20/07/2022 16:10

It depends what you mean OP. My uncles and father all died of age-related illnesses, when they were older than the average life expectancy for a male in the UK, which I think is about 80. But it varies hugely between regions. Blackpool is years lower than rural Surrey.

And I had a male college friend who committed suicide in his 20s, one who died in a motorcycle crash aged 28 and one who died of a heart attack in his 30s.

You have to factor in all the very young deaths as well. If you don't know of any, you are very lucky.

SalterScales · 20/07/2022 16:11

In some parts of Glasgow it's 58. Part of what's known as The Glasgow Effect. I'll find a link

SalterScales · 20/07/2022 16:12

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_effect

RampantIvy · 20/07/2022 16:12

DaisyDozyDee · 20/07/2022 15:56

Are you really saying you’ve never known anyone male who died before the age of 85? That would really be extraordinary.

I agree. My dad was 78 when he died. His brother (my uncle) was 79.

Pruella · 20/07/2022 16:13

I don’t know anyone who died before 85!

That’s incredibly fortunate.

One of my grandfathers died in his mid 30s. Two boys at my school killed themselves. A friend lost a child to SIDS. My friend’s dad died in a car accident in his 40s.

All very sad, none particularly unusual.

BarbaraofSeville · 20/07/2022 16:18

Age of death due to old age roughly aligns to a normal distribution, but the obviously you have outliers in younger people due to accidents and illnesses.

Surely you must know that only a small percentage of men live to 85 and if it really is the case that you don't know anyone who has died before that age, it must be due to your sample size being unrepresentative of the population as a whole, rather the stats being somehow 'wrong'.

Although it would be an interesting statistical exercise to ask 'what is the probability of a group of men all living to at least 85' which is basically what you're asking.

They did consider a similar question on the BBC stats programme More or Less prior to the last US election as the two candidates were both well into their 70s but it was framed in terms of 'what are the chances that the next US president will die in office'. I can't remember the detail, but it will be available online if you're interested in hearing a talk through of the statistics of this sort of question.

emmathedilemma · 20/07/2022 16:28

DaisyDozyDee · 20/07/2022 15:56

Are you really saying you’ve never known anyone male who died before the age of 85? That would really be extraordinary.

I guess maybe it depends how old the OP is and how they're classing people they know. if they're quite young and from a small family and the only person they know who's died was their grandfather for example, then it's possible. If you extend "people you know" to friends of parents, extended family, friend's parents etc then it is more surprising but some people have a very circle of friends.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 20/07/2022 17:17

I currently don’t know anyone aged 85+

EV117 · 20/07/2022 17:47

I know this can be found online but I don’t know anyone who died before 85!

But unless you live under a rock you surely know of people that do…
Statistic aren’t just based on your acquaintances.

xyzandabc · 20/07/2022 18:01

heypp · 20/07/2022 15:50

I know this can be found online but I don’t know anyone who died before 85! And the statistics seem to vary anyway? Is it different between Scotland and Wales and England?

Unless you are very young, I think you are very very lucky not to know anyone who has died younger than 85.

I'm in my 40s and know at least 6 people in their 30s or 40s with terminal cancer, 4 of them are no longer with us. 2 children, age 1 and 4 from accident/illness and more than one late teens/young adults who died on the roads. My DC is only 10 and 2 of their classmates have lost a parent already. These kind of deaths must bring the average down.

DaisyDozyDee · 20/07/2022 18:43

Maybe it is down to the definition of who you know. I can think of well over a dozen people that I’d known who’d died before I turned 21. None of them were over 85. Some were under 20. A neighbour, two grandparents, two of my primary school teachers, two kids from my school buses, several friends of my siblings, someone from my university course.
I do find it unusual than someone gets to adulthood without knowing anyone at all who’s died younger than 85 whether it’s cancer or an accidental death or a long term illness or Covid or heart attack or stroke or whatever.

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