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Employee left the business but is still using her work email address

110 replies

FYLM · 16/07/2022 01:20

And according to Microsoft, there is NOTHING they can do about it.

I set up a small business 2 years ago. One of my employees left last week. I called Microsoft as we are with Office 365 to reset her email account with a new password so that she could not access it and I could manage the account myself (I am a sole trader). The email address she was using was the generic one, "hello@....".

As she changed all the passwords, Microsoft have said there is nothing they can do. I can't get into Office 365, I can't reclaim the email address from her, there is literally NOTHING I can do.

All they keep saying is "contact your HR", "contact your IT dept", etc. I don't have these things - I am a sole trader!

Can anyone advise me please? Thanks.

OP posts:
DogInATent · 16/07/2022 08:31

Morph22010 · 16/07/2022 08:19

Where do they do that then? Not something I knew was possible unless you are limited company but op has said they are sole trader

You can register a Trademark as an individual/sole trader.

LittleSid · 16/07/2022 08:37

I'm sure thar makes it theft of some sort, online property or something. Look into letter templates, detail and log everything you send to her and you may have to get a solicitor involved.

mumda · 16/07/2022 08:47

If she was still using the email - why? has she been taking your business?

Without taking control of that domain name properly she can continue to do so. It will come up for renewal and she will be able to pay for it.

Nominet are only useful for UK domains.

Morph22010 · 16/07/2022 08:53

DogInATent · 16/07/2022 08:31

You can register a Trademark as an individual/sole trader.

Bit of an expensive route though if op can’t even afford to see a solicitor to get this sorted.

PeterCannaeRun · 16/07/2022 09:02

Dh adds that when you set up an admin account that only you have the password for, set it up as 2 factor so you need your phone as well to enter a second password/passcode just in case someone sees you type in the password ever.

There are lots of videos on YouTube walking you through setting up stuff like this which will help you.

DogInATent · 16/07/2022 09:06

Morph22010 · 16/07/2022 08:53

Bit of an expensive route though if op can’t even afford to see a solicitor to get this sorted.

It's not even a solution/relevant to the OP's problem, I was just answering your question as to whether it was possible.

The OP's problem is that they don't have admin control over their 365 account.

But I'm also a little concerned for the OP being a sole trader and using the phrase "one of my employees". The liabilities associated with being an employer can mount up substantially, and without a legal limit on those liabilities there are very significant risks to the OP.

Strictlyfanoftenyears · 16/07/2022 09:13

Dont understand why the OP didnt talk to her employee!

Moonopoly · 16/07/2022 09:17

I would be concerned about why she has kept and is using this email? Is she contacting your clients/making people think she is still connected to your business to gain work for herself?

IncompleteSenten · 16/07/2022 09:24

I'm glad you sorted it out.
What on earth did she do that for?

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 16/07/2022 09:34

I’d imagine that as the OP is gutted about this supposed friend, that this is more than not giving the email back and is more about stealing her business

HollowTalk · 16/07/2022 09:41

This is horrific especially as she thought she was a friend. Surely it's a legal what she's doing?

Changechangychange · 16/07/2022 09:49

CallOnMe · 16/07/2022 08:31

Why did you need her password?
Did you ask her to stop using the email once she left?

When I finished at my last place they said I can’t use the email address anymore and I said ok and didn’t use it.
I didn’t need to give my passwords.

If you read OP’s posts, the employee isn’t just using the email, she has changed all the passwords and locked OP out of the whole company account. This is malicious.

Fraaahnces · 16/07/2022 10:37

If this person is a qualified professional, you may have cause to have her sanctioned or deregistered by the governing body for this kind of unprofessional behaviour.

lemocurds · 16/07/2022 10:37

This reply has been deleted

The OP is a troll so we've removed this thread.

Fraaahnces · 16/07/2022 11:09

Make sure you change all your banking passwords too.

SolasAnla · 16/07/2022 11:11

DogInATent · 16/07/2022 08:31

You can register a Trademark as an individual/sole trader.

Yep, companies house has a links

companieshouse.blog.gov.uk/2019/02/12/choosing-a-company-name-trading-name-or-trade-mark/

SolasAnla · 16/07/2022 11:18

CallOnMe · 16/07/2022 08:31

Why did you need her password?
Did you ask her to stop using the email once she left?

When I finished at my last place they said I can’t use the email address anymore and I said ok and didn’t use it.
I didn’t need to give my passwords.

That is because you had no administration rights to your the companies email address.

If the company choose to leave the inbox active and redirect mail they could do that by changing the password needed and by changing the reset password protocol.

In the OP's situation the ex-employee has gained access to a system she has no legal right to access anymore, an internal hack, and used her access to gain control of the OPs property by changing passwords and reset protocol.

BruisedSkies · 16/07/2022 11:19

What did she say when you spoke to her?

SolasAnla · 16/07/2022 11:23

PSA

If you are a sole trader with employees always have at least 2 admin's. Even if both of them are you logging in under 2 id's

For important stuff like system controls for access changes and removing users make sure that it is a 2 step process 1 to input the change 1 to approve the change.

DogInATent · 16/07/2022 12:03

PSA
If you are a sole trader with employees ... look to limit your liabilities with a legal structure as soon as possible. Employees are one of the biggest liabilities a small business can have.

Coffeetree · 16/07/2022 12:09

FYLM · 16/07/2022 01:24

@MrsTerryPratchett I don't have the money for that.

How much were you quoted?

You don't have the money for a lawyer but you can afford to throw away your business? Okay.

mackthepony · 16/07/2022 14:54

Amazing that there aren't more instances of this happening.

Glad you got it sorted op... And I bet you're gonna be wary of who you hire in future!

OooErr · 17/07/2022 18:12

Always ensure you and you alone have admin access. Other people should be users added or removed by you. To all IT systems

OooErr · 17/07/2022 18:12

*also this creates a single man dependency but presumably as a sole trader nothing admin should need doing behind your back?

MasterchefMeansRiceKrispiesFor · 17/07/2022 18:17

If you’re the admin get into the Microsoft 365 admin tool and reset the password. If you don’t manage that then delete the hello@ but that would mean that email address is trashed long term so you’d still have to replace links all over the place.

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