Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

Constantly comparing

30 replies

Helpme2 · 11/07/2022 17:30

This is absolutely my problem and something I am v ashamed of but I honestly don’t know how to deal with it. I have three absolutely wonderful sons but I struggle a bit with their behaviour at times and my expectations which may be unrealistic.
They have always been extremely high energy , on the move young and very , very physically active. Two of them were terrible sleepers so I thought that keeping them active would help maybe , anyway there was no choice , if I tried to have a chilled day they would climb the walls by 10am. They are good at sports which is great and I’m very proud and if they are happy doing this that’s more important. The problem I have is I’ve always been a book worm , very into art and crafts and quite different activities. My older kids are 10 and 7 and have absolutely zero interest in reading and literally have never picked up a book in their lives on their own accord, I’ve taken them to libraries since they were babies, their rooms are filled with books, they both were behind reading wise in school, they both have tests for dyslexia and don’t have it. I’ve taken the teachers advice and I don’t put loads of pressure on them , they said to make it positive and read to them , get them to pick books they like. I’ve done this and they love being read to, when I try to get them to read a page my 10 year old will , a bit but 7 year old absolutely refuses to.
They never pick up books at home ever , they have limited screen time and that’s just tv not computer games as they don’t play them. I was just reminded recently as their principal gave a big talk for new children next year of how houses where parents read and expose their kids to reading produce kids much more into books and who do better in school vs houses that don’t …. I’m a teacher myself but found this hard to hear….
It’s not just that , I feel my dh and I are really consistent, careful with diet , screen time etc but they all seem to have short concentration spans , v little interest in activities like drawing , reading etc. This is compounded at the moment by being in another country and it’s the native language of my dh , they refuse to even try and speak a word even though we have gently helped and encouraged and tried lots at home. We get constant comments from family and friends on how active they are , why don’t they try and speak , what books do they read. It makes us feel like shit and I end up comparing which I hate in myself. It like things come easier to others with their kids, even when I take a totally hands off, relaxed approach they still don’t read etc etc.
I hate the way I constantly compare internally and it takes the joy out of things. I’m ashamed and low about it but feel society around us judges us.

OP posts:
Helpme2 · 11/07/2022 18:01

I think I can feel defensive sometimes but also in our case it’s very much not what we do that has any effect. I spent years trying to get them to sleep and absolutely nothing worked but time and it’s the same with everything else , reading , languages, even with homeschooling, I spent hours trying to help them with exercises and reading but it doesn’t seem to help and if I relax and just leave them to it they don’t do anything so I just don’t know how to get the right balance….
I was saying to parents recently about homework with my ten year old and they said they just let their dcs get on with now and to work independently. I’ve honestly tried this loads and when I look over his homework in the evening it’s a totally mess with spelling mistakes and v messy writing etc but I don’t want to be breathing down their necks either. I honestly feel a bit lost really about it. I thought they’d learn the language a bit here by socialising with the other kids but they don’t try and speak to them at all.

OP posts:
MintJulia · 11/07/2022 19:03

So your dcs aren't in your image. It happens. My sil is very sociable and glamorous, but her two daughters are scientific-minded, studious and quite introverted. It doesn't mean they are any less precious.

Equally. I am a complete failure in my mothers' eyes, no marriage, only one child, no desire to stay near the rest of my family. It isn't a disaster.

Surely as long as they are happy and healthy, that's what matters. They have their own interest in sports, so perhaps take pride in, and encourage that.

Helpme2 · 11/07/2022 19:19

@MintJulia thank you for your reply and you’re absolutely right. Their interest in sports has actually helped me, I am a lot fitter than I was pre kids ! It’s more other people’s comments , simply put they are behind in reading and writing despite us actually spending extra time on this and they have absolutely zero intrinsic motivation this way and we don’t push it at all anymore. And to hear plp make comments like “children from houses where they read and expose them to books tend to read and do well vs kids where they don’t …” when actually in our case that isn’t true. I also had a friend here quiz my kids on books her kids were reading ( Harry Potter etc ) and they didn’t have a clue although me and my eldest have read maybe the first 3 with me reading . Also here we’ve had loads of comments re then not speaking my dh second language although he has really tried on a day to day basis.

OP posts:

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

Apprenticedeg · 11/07/2022 19:28

@Helpme2 mine are the same. Although I didn’t read avidly until I was 13. My 9 yr old dd has read 1 full book this year so far, despite me trying with the library etc etc but what I do do is I read to them and with them, although not as consistently as I would like.

My DS (6) loves encyclopaedias and will look at them and read little snippets or ask you about things which is nice but wouldn’t sit and read a book like others.
My DD (9) LOVES puzzles like word searches and crosswords which is great in lots of ways too! maybe yours would like this?? We do them together sometimes which is nice.

MintJulia · 11/07/2022 19:34

My ds's form teacher keeps 'expressing her concerns' because he reads at lunch time rather than joining in football with the other boys. DS hates football. We just can't win 🙄

I'm taking the view that as long as my DS is happy and motivated in himself, I'm going to settle for that.

Helpme2 · 11/07/2022 19:35

And you are right , as long as they are happy and healthy, I know these are the main things , it’s my own insecurities that make me think we are doing something wrong or not doing enough.

OP posts:
Endpress · 11/07/2022 19:36

They sound passionate and happy about sport. That’s amazing! A life of health and happiness. They’ll get to books or whatever else in their future if they want. One passion does seem to come at the expense of others I’ve noticed. But if they’re happy and healthy they can and will branch out as they grow. I don’t think it’s just about reading. it’s about opportunities and attitude and they’ll have that in abundance from you.

Endpress · 11/07/2022 19:37

Plus whenever I’ve meddled/ overly encouraged my kids in a way I think they “should” go. It turns to shit.

Helpme2 · 11/07/2022 19:39

Thanks @Apprenticedeg I do word searches, crosswords , art with them but they will never do this on their own , ever. They’d never choose to do these activities unless I set them up and do them with them. Same with homework , they don’t do it unless I sit with them , and yup if I didn’t and left them to it (I have of course ) it’s done but very messy , every second word spelt incorrectly etc . I’ve been on to their school lots but they have no concerns 🤷🏻‍♀️

OP posts:
Blankbias · 11/07/2022 19:44

Please don’t be hard on yourself, people learn in different ways - children and adults. Do they like watching tv/films? If they’re able to concentrate on that, then maybe relax the screen time and integrate the films/tv with books (books that have been made into films). If they enjoy being read to then they obviously like the stories. People can have rows of books in their house and never read them. I’m a big reader, and a quick reader, never happier when I have a good book to read. My husband is not a ‘reader’ in the sense of books. He prefers video news updates, stories, podcasts. I can’t get into audio books, but he loves them. My husband is clever, with a professional STEM job, likes sports, sociable, grade 8 at two musical instruments. Not reading books hasn’t held him back at all!

Helpme2 · 11/07/2022 19:55

Tbh @Endpress I think you hit the nail on the head , it goes to shit anytime I try but then I feel bad as I haven’t tried enough to teach them a second language etc

OP posts:
Helpme2 · 11/07/2022 20:00

@Blankbias you are v right , my dh has a very good job , speaks three languages but he has absolutely no interest in reading and says he never has. He’s also a bit jittery and needs to be on the move constantly. It’s more me I think that’s the problem, I take things to heart, my sil made a comment about how my dcs don’t understand a word of their dads second language and what a “shame it is “ , it made me feel like crap , like I was failing them or something despite our best efforts

OP posts:
EddyReadyGo · 11/07/2022 20:09

Sounds like you are trying your best OP. My ds are dyslexic and perhaps adhd, what taught them to read was comics. In particular one called ‘the phoenix’, and various Marcel comics.

maybe give that a go?

the app Duolingo also might help for learning the language as it’s very gamified.

good luck! Try not to compare, they are so little and it all works out in the end.

Namenic · 11/07/2022 20:12

Would they like to go to a live sports match? Could you make that a reward for consistent, independently done homework? Maybe they could also write a short postcard to grandparents on how they liked it. Could they read the sports section of newspapers in your DH language?

is there any poetry - Michael Rosen maybe - that they may find funny?

Bookridden · 11/07/2022 20:14

I think you sound like a lovely mum. So your boys are sporty, energetic types rather than bookworms? I think there's room for everyone in this world, and sometimes our kids are just different from us. Not better, not worse, just different. I have felt sad at times that DD doesn't share certain passions of mine, but I'm learning to let that go. As your boys get older, you will have more time for yourself, and you will detach more from what others think of them and your parenting of them. You sound to me as if you are doing everything just right, apart from being too hard on yourself, and judging yourself against impossible expectations.

Tablechairtable · 11/07/2022 20:22

Comparison is the thief of joy OP.
Some parents would be glad that their dcs are so active and not glued to a screen.
As long as they eventually have the basics of reading and writing, at this stage surely the being happy and healthy is more important.
There's plenty of time for academia later on.
Take the pressure of yourself and just enjoy them the way they are and ignore anyone that is negative about them.

Helpme2 · 11/07/2022 20:27

You’re comments have been v v helpful, I think I’ve been too influenced by what others say and I don’t want my dcs feeling pressure from me.

OP posts:
FlowersFlowersEverywhere · 11/07/2022 21:03

on the reading front, my DS is 7, and struggles to be interested in reading BUT a friend bought him ‘Animal Jokes for funny kids’ and he’s now worked his way through 124 pages that’s he’s read himself because he loves jokes. We’ve even acted some of them out so he understands them better. Wonder if your 7 year old might like this too?

merryhouse · 11/07/2022 21:29

Why is it your failure if they don't speak their father's language?

FTstepmum · 11/07/2022 22:03

I compare my step-children too, in other ways. I hope I'm not judged more harshly for being SM. I'm genuinely the only mum in their life who looks after and cares for them (and if I didn't love them, this really wouldn't be a problem)

I compare them to lots of children I see out and about - because not one of my SC are interested in leaving the living room or having friends - even on days like this.

We live in a safe, beautiful coastal town with beaches and loads of places to explore.

And all (and I mean all) they want to do is watch shit/shouty YouTubers and play Roblox. They have no other interests - and Lord knows we have tried to encourage them!

It really upsets me, because I know their lack of social and life skills are going to seriously harm them in the future.

It's the single biggest issue we have in our family.

OP, I personally think you are justified in feeling slightly disappointed.

Helpme2 · 12/07/2022 08:04

@FTstepmum I am definitely not disappointed and they are the opposite of what you describe, they love going out and are really active. In fact pp have hugely helped me realise I’ve been totally unreasonable. Tbh I would really have benefitted from doing team sports when younger and my dh says the same , he wanted to try loads of sports but his parents weren’t really into it so even though it isn’t my natural way I have thrown myself into all the sporty activities and I see now I need to focus on all the great things they can do. We can’t do more re the academic stuff and I know as a teacher anyway that forcing stuff isn’t a good way to go about it but at the same time being totally passive and hands off doesn’t really work with mine either so it’s a balance.
Really appreciate the excellent suggestions re books and comics! @merryhouse its defo seen as our failure, not really failure , more we could try more. My dh is laid back and is very much of the view they’ll find their own way in the future and not to load on the pressure. The person making comments has always something to say to try and undermine us and our kids, no idea why, we are always lovely to them. It stupidly got to me. Anyway going forward it might be good to get someone else to help re language. I remember I decided I’d teach them to swim like easy peasey….. why to plp waste money on lessons.. Well for good reasons , 3 lessons with a brilliant teacher they were doing amazingly well vs with me !

OP posts:
Helpme2 · 12/07/2022 09:40

Its Spanish and thanks for the suggestion of Duolingo! Have had a look and it’s fantastic ! Really good with Spanish and v practical so great suggestion.

OP posts:
thebabessavedme · 12/07/2022 10:05

OP you sound like a very good mother, so long as your children are given access to books is the main thing, they will either choose to read or not - My own parents always did anything to encourge reading/learning etc. I have one brother who reads avidly, as do I, I also have another brother who I dont think has ever read anything other than a motorcycle manual, however, he is very far from stupid or ill educated, his maths is superb and seems to be instinctive whereas me and brother 2 cant add up for toffee.

I have a wonderful nephew who only really started reading properly after we bought him a subscription to a football magazine at age 6, he would read that from cover to cover, as to school books it was like pulling teeth!

I am a great beliver in what is now known as 'cultural capital', show them things be it the zoo, museums, exhibitions, and in your case sports events.

Something will spark their interest and they will want to learn more about it.

Helpme2 · 12/07/2022 10:22

@thebabessavedme thank you , you sound absolutely lovely. These suggestions and comments have really helped give me a head wobble I need.

OP posts:
thebabessavedme · 12/07/2022 10:30

You are welcome @Helpme2 Smile Your boys sound very much like my grandson, he is 6, a wonderful bright little button, he can work my tech when he wants to play a game, he also has a fasination with dinosours, castles and football, he likes school, likes to do well etc but frankly, getting him to read/write etc right now is pain in the arse (for all of us) he can however tell you chapter and verse about the Great Fire of London and the Battle of Hastings Grin

Swipe left for the next trending thread