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What does this mean (pic) teacher assessment report

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Notoschool · 08/07/2022 18:13

Can anyone tell me what this means? Are you able to tell me what age range my child is working at ?

What does this mean (pic)  teacher assessment report
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ImJustNotMeAnymore · 08/07/2022 18:17

Can't tell the age but that looks like the school is failing your child.

OhTheLeetleHandsAndFeetle · 08/07/2022 18:20

ImJustNotMeAnymore · 08/07/2022 18:17

Can't tell the age but that looks like the school is failing your child.

Why is it the school’s fault? Some kids learn at different rates, some kids have learning issues, some kids need more parental support, some kids just struggle.

BeautifulDragon · 08/07/2022 18:20

She's working at around nursery level according to this.

Did the school speak to you about her levels before you received the report?

glamourousindierockandroll · 08/07/2022 18:21

Are they P Scales: used for children with special educational needs? Have you bene told that your child is struggling to access the national curriculum for children aged 5 and over?

www.gov.uk/government/publications/p-scales-attainment-targets-for-pupils-with-sen

Annatinks · 08/07/2022 18:24

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/903457/2021_Pre-key_stage_1_-_pupils_working_below_the_national_curriculum_assessment_standard_PDFA.pdf

This link will help explain what your child CAN do to have reached the pre key stages on this report. As it says KS1 on the top I’m guessing your child is in Year 1 or 2 at school. Remember that learning varies greatly between children at this age and this is not necessarily any indicator of future development. Their score on phonics was very low (a pass is 32/40) so perhaps this is something you can practice at home. A LOT of kids at this age will score far lower than previous age groups due to the impact from Covid.
Perhaps seek advice from their teacher on what you can help them with at home but do not feel worried about this - many are in the same post Covid boat and will level out later anyway.

Notoschool · 08/07/2022 18:25

BeautifulDragon · 08/07/2022 18:20

She's working at around nursery level according to this.

Did the school speak to you about her levels before you received the report?

Thank you. He has special needs. He's getting a 121. Which will start in September. He does have a TA who sits with him alot of the time. But he now has a EHCP.

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LifeInsideMyhead · 08/07/2022 18:25

It does suggest she is struggling. However I dont know about the levels. Are they p levels ?

Are they happy at school?
Definitely worth a chat

On the flip side we ask kids to jump through so many hoops and some arent developmentally ready.

OhTheLeetleHandsAndFeetle · 08/07/2022 18:26

I would mention, if it helps, OP, that my child had a very similar report in Reception and Year 1. Late summer birthday and various learning issues that were picked up, worked on (including Teams intervention sessions thoughout lockdown) and is now flying.

Speak to the school, but please don’t assume they are ‘failing’ your child. They are there to help.

KarmaComma · 08/07/2022 18:26

The link above gives descriptions for each PKS stage. It means they've assessed your as below KS1 level. Your child should be getting additional support with grades like this, and it's very odd if you've never been made aware how much your child is 'behind' age expected standards at this point.

MrsPear · 08/07/2022 18:28

I don’t know the type of special needs your child has but I’m glad you now have an echp: I would request another meeting with senco requesting in layman’s terms what is expected and what he can do then how you and the school can work together to close the gap. Don’t leave without a plan. Good luck.

Notoschool · 08/07/2022 18:35

OhTheLeetleHandsAndFeetle · 08/07/2022 18:26

I would mention, if it helps, OP, that my child had a very similar report in Reception and Year 1. Late summer birthday and various learning issues that were picked up, worked on (including Teams intervention sessions thoughout lockdown) and is now flying.

Speak to the school, but please don’t assume they are ‘failing’ your child. They are there to help.

Hes in year 2. I don't feel they are failing him though.

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Notoschool · 08/07/2022 18:45

MrsPear · 08/07/2022 18:28

I don’t know the type of special needs your child has but I’m glad you now have an echp: I would request another meeting with senco requesting in layman’s terms what is expected and what he can do then how you and the school can work together to close the gap. Don’t leave without a plan. Good luck.

There has been a panel meeting. I'm just waiting for the written paper work to come through.

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takeitandleaveit · 08/07/2022 19:23

In years gone by you got an actual handwritten report from the teacher which told you exactly how the child was doing.

The ones that get produced nowadays are so impersonal and don't allow for any feedback from the teacher whatsoever, and to be honest, in my view they simply aren't worth the paper they are written on.

I actually ripped up and threw away one of my DD1's reports it was so useless.

Notoschool · 08/07/2022 19:28

takeitandleaveit · 08/07/2022 19:23

In years gone by you got an actual handwritten report from the teacher which told you exactly how the child was doing.

The ones that get produced nowadays are so impersonal and don't allow for any feedback from the teacher whatsoever, and to be honest, in my view they simply aren't worth the paper they are written on.

I actually ripped up and threw away one of my DD1's reports it was so useless.

He does have the personal side to it. Talks about the kind of child he is. His confidence. Ect . I just only showed the bit I did not understand.

Secondary school reports are ad you say though just a row of numbers and letters.

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Teacherteachernotapreacher · 08/07/2022 19:28

I’m assuming he’s year 2 as that’s a SATS report. PK means pre key stage so he’s working below key stage 1 level eg still under EYFS standards. WT means working towards so is within year 2 but not at standard. HNM means has not met and is effectively a way of saying isn’t at expected but is vague so can mean anywhere from EYFS to not quite end of year 2

Notoschool · 08/07/2022 19:38

Teacherteachernotapreacher · 08/07/2022 19:28

I’m assuming he’s year 2 as that’s a SATS report. PK means pre key stage so he’s working below key stage 1 level eg still under EYFS standards. WT means working towards so is within year 2 but not at standard. HNM means has not met and is effectively a way of saying isn’t at expected but is vague so can mean anywhere from EYFS to not quite end of year 2

He never done the Sat's they tried to get him to. But he draw a picture.

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Teacherteachernotapreacher · 08/07/2022 20:16

No he wouldn’t have sat them - that’s what you assess them against if they can’t sit them. Most of our ehcp kids are assessed at pre key stage and it’s just teacher assessment. It’s mainly so the dfe have a score for them - it’s fairly meaningless really especially as he has an ehcp. I imagine your school tracking system is better for assessing him than national standards but they have to submit something

LargeLegoHaul · 08/07/2022 20:53

Notoschool · 08/07/2022 19:38

He never done the Sat's they tried to get him to. But he draw a picture.

WT doesn’t mean “working towards so is within year 2 but not at standard“ in this case, because it is about the phonics screening it only signifies the pupil hasn’t met the required standard, it doesn’t necessarily mean they are within Y2.

Why did the school try to get DS to sit SATS? Pupils working at pre-key stage standards should be disapplied.

It sounds like DS needs a full time TA rather than only some of the time, especially going into KS2. If the EHCP doesn’t specify and quantify a full time 1:1 you should ask for an early review.

Notoschool · 08/07/2022 21:53

LargeLegoHaul · 08/07/2022 20:53

WT doesn’t mean “working towards so is within year 2 but not at standard“ in this case, because it is about the phonics screening it only signifies the pupil hasn’t met the required standard, it doesn’t necessarily mean they are within Y2.

Why did the school try to get DS to sit SATS? Pupils working at pre-key stage standards should be disapplied.

It sounds like DS needs a full time TA rather than only some of the time, especially going into KS2. If the EHCP doesn’t specify and quantify a full time 1:1 you should ask for an early review.

I don't know why she got him to do it. She even asked me to have a word with him. Which he heard . He sobbed all the way home . Had she not made it a thing. She could have just given the paper and see what he would do. In the report his goals say about doing maths to 50. He can barely count to 15. Hopefully his teacher next year will have more understanding.

I don't know the ins and outs of the 121 yet. I know he's getting 12k a year . But I don't know how far that stretches.

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LargeLegoHaul · 08/07/2022 23:07

If there’s 1:1 provision section F tells you about it. Focus on what is in section F rather than the funding. There could be all the funding in the world, but if the provision isn’t specified and quantified in F it doesn’t mean anything. Have you considered whether MS is the right placement going forward?

Notoschool · 09/07/2022 10:02

LargeLegoHaul · 08/07/2022 23:07

If there’s 1:1 provision section F tells you about it. Focus on what is in section F rather than the funding. There could be all the funding in the world, but if the provision isn’t specified and quantified in F it doesn’t mean anything. Have you considered whether MS is the right placement going forward?

MS is right for him at the moment. He's happy there

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