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Cultural capital, social capital, economic capital.. So many threads lately

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Pullandpush · 01/07/2022 11:08

So many threads lately on cultural capital & how important it is for kids to succeed now (much more important for current & future generations due to globalisation than it was in the past)
But I'm going to argue that social capital (ability to communicate really well, mix with peers & have charisma etc) is nearly more important now with so many jobs being relocated to Asia?
Economic capital is always helpful too 😅
So for me social capital tops cultural capital but a combination of both would more than likely produce a well rounded, successful adult!

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Notmanybroadbeans · 01/07/2022 11:34

That's social skills, not social capital. Social capital is who you know - having a wide and supportive network.

HerTableLaid · 01/07/2022 11:36

Notmanybroadbeans · 01/07/2022 11:34

That's social skills, not social capital. Social capital is who you know - having a wide and supportive network.

This. And I’m not sure what the connection is with jobs relocating to Asia, either.

Wouldloveanother · 01/07/2022 11:36

I mean it’s all a bit pointless isn’t it really. What’s it for? So your kid can get a high pressured job, then do the same with their own kids? Where’s the enjoyment and relaxation in that? It just seems like a neurotic cycle to me

blacksax · 01/07/2022 11:39

It's all a load of bollocks though, surely?

All these things have always existed - there's just a poncy new name for it.

HerTableLaid · 01/07/2022 11:41

blacksax · 01/07/2022 11:39

It's all a load of bollocks though, surely?

All these things have always existed - there's just a poncy new name for it.

The term ‘social capital’ has been in use for more than a century, though. It’s not some new buzzword.

gingersplodgecat · 01/07/2022 11:43

HerTableLaid · 01/07/2022 11:41

The term ‘social capital’ has been in use for more than a century, though. It’s not some new buzzword.

Among a certain academic and political sector certainly. But not in common everyday usage among the general public.

Notmanybroadbeans · 01/07/2022 11:50

I think it's a useful concept to be aware of, to be fair.

MercurialMonday · 01/07/2022 11:55

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I think this is the kind of thing cultural capital projects are ideally meant to be - but I don't think it the worse thing for parents to encourage curiosity about the wider world.

But then you tube keeps presenting me with Americans shocked, though often learning, stuff I'd consider basic knowledge - there are many reasons of that but there's also a thread of culturally a lack of curiosity about wider world.

Pullandpush · 01/07/2022 12:12

Notmanybroadbeans · 01/07/2022 11:50

I think it's a useful concept to be aware of, to be fair.

I find it fascinating & something that needs to be addressed as there's very little social mobility in the UK.
Covid & now the cost of living crisis is making things even more difficult but the kids with access to cultural, economic & social capital (as well as extremely strong social skills) will always be just fine.

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Pullandpush · 01/07/2022 18:53

Notmanybroadbeans · 01/07/2022 11:34

That's social skills, not social capital. Social capital is who you know - having a wide and supportive network.

Absolutely true, there is a difference.. I would say having great social skills is also highly important

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MarshaMelrose · 01/07/2022 18:59

Absolutely true, there is a difference.. I would say having great social skills is also highly important.

I agree. I once had occasion to eat in the officers' mess on a ship. One of the officers ate his pie and chips with a spoon. I guarantee you he would never be allowed to eat on the captain's table nor with guests. It seems a small thing, but things like that hold you back from promotions and realising your full potential. I know on MN that is an unpopular thing to say but I've seen it so often.

Pullandpush · 01/07/2022 19:31

@MarshaMelrose absolutely, I've had so many social faux pas in my time. In my 20s I had a very wealthy boyfriend, his sisters used snidely correct me🙄 used to feel mortified.. Growing up my parents were tee total-ers so I hadn't a clue about wine, the night I met his family, I had a glass of red wine & when it came to top ups I asked for white instead.. They looked at me like I had 7 heads & gently explained that if I did that I'd have a very severe headache the following day...
All his exes were from a similar background, very sophisticated, jobs in the city types who were friends with his sisters... It was horrible being so out of touch...

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BonjourCrisette · 01/07/2022 20:29

They looked at me like I had 7 heads & gently explained that if I did that I'd have a very severe headache the following day

But that is literally absolute nonsense, not to mention extremely bad manners. I don't think those people were as posh as you seem to think!

Pullandpush · 01/07/2022 21:12

They were awful... His parents were actually very nice but the sisters were insufferable.. I wasn't toff enough for them & seeing as I went to an unknown comp & didn't attend uni I was clearly an absolute nobody...

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