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Total household income question

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Orangesandlemons77 · 22/06/2022 19:28

There's a place nearby where you can pick up food which is end of stock from nearby shops etc. For a charge think it's £5.

Anyway it's for anyone who has a household income of less than £18,000. Do you think that's before or after any benefits such as UC?

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motogirl · 22/06/2022 19:30

I would think it was total household income excluding child benefit or pip/dla as that doesn't count towards income usually

evilevilevil · 22/06/2022 19:35

Those poor people how on earth do they get by? I'm not rich by any means but that income seems impossible to live on

riotlady · 22/06/2022 19:38

Ask them if you’re not sure but I would say it’s likely without UC- a lot of things the eligibility is having a household income under 16k (from work) and receiving benefits, so it sounds like they’re going on similar lines

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XenoBitch · 22/06/2022 19:39

I would think it includes UC

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 22/06/2022 19:39

evilevilevil · 22/06/2022 19:35

Those poor people how on earth do they get by? I'm not rich by any means but that income seems impossible to live on

This. By MN standards we are basically paupers, but we are on so much more than that in the scheme of things. I try and donate to food banks as much as I can and I'd like to think if I knew someone struggling they would reach out

Orangesandlemons77 · 22/06/2022 19:40

Ok I might ask them and check. I get esa so not sure if that would count or not

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JackieCollinshasnoauthority · 22/06/2022 19:41

I would assume after as presumably they account for people who don't have any income other than benefits.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 22/06/2022 19:41

Orangesandlemons77 · 22/06/2022 19:40

Ok I might ask them and check. I get esa so not sure if that would count or not

I can't see how it does. Even UC as it is such an unstable payment

lunar1 · 22/06/2022 19:41

I don't think it would include any type of benefit, they aren't counted as income in the same way are they.

CredibilityProblem · 22/06/2022 19:51

So that's single childless people only in effect? Unless I'm missing something.

Actually that wouldn't necessarily be such a bad thing. Single childless people without an officially recognised disability have very little support from the benefits system, so some specific ad hoc help may well be needed to help those who are falling through the cracks.

LilacPoppy · 22/06/2022 19:52

It will be not including benefits.

CredibilityProblem · 22/06/2022 19:55

(And no I don't think that people on disability benefits are all rolling around on giant beds of tax-payers' dosh, just that there are people who fall slightly over the line of qualification who don't get anything)

XenoBitch · 22/06/2022 19:56

What is your take home pay per year? (include benefits in that). If it is less than £18k then I can't see why you would be turned away.

Softleftpowerstance · 22/06/2022 19:57

Well you’re going to have to ask, as evidently it’s not obvious.

But I’d say it include benefits. They are income, and for many people their only income. Better/common for someone to use earnings if you want to be clear it’s wages only.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 22/06/2022 19:59

Softleftpowerstance · 22/06/2022 19:57

Well you’re going to have to ask, as evidently it’s not obvious.

But I’d say it include benefits. They are income, and for many people their only income. Better/common for someone to use earnings if you want to be clear it’s wages only.

Some benefits aren't classed as income. I get PIP but aren't allowed to class it as income.

WishILivedInThrushGreen · 22/06/2022 20:03

I'd pop along and ask.
I'd have thought that it was total income but I don't think they'd police it too closely.
You'll need some paperwork though.

DomPerignon12 · 22/06/2022 20:16

Anything coming into the household is income including benefits.
unless your REAL question is can people fudge it by only showing their payslips and hiding any benefits

LastTrainEast · 22/06/2022 21:49

If you're struggling then it's intended for you.

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