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Staff shortages are now a national crisis

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Confusedofbritain · 01/06/2022 08:49

Staff shortages across many sectors is now a national crisis surely? I’ve given up expecting anything of this government, but why isn’t Labour beating them with a stick over this?

Some examples which affect me personally….

  • Can’t go on holiday due to cancelled flight, cause by lack of ground staff.
  • I work for NHS trust and we have closed a ward due to c 50% vacancies. We have plenty of money but can’t spend it. Now competing with other trusts paying increasingly high golden handshakes.
  • Tried to book restaurant for Tuesday birthday. Not possible as all places shut Monday and Tuesday due to short staff (esp chefs).
  • Poor service when we do go out. Staff look frazzled.
  • Can’t get a builder to do an extension. Often not bothering to quote. Builder friend can’t keep labourers and brickies. Paying increasingly high wages but getting poached.
  • Window fitter quoted me 2x higher than 2019 (for a much smaller window!) probably because they’re so busy and can’t increase capacity due to lack of staff. So prices have gone up by 100%.
  • Long delay in discharge for father from hospital, due to long waits for care package (caused by staff shortages). He was in hospital a lot longer than necessary and declined hugely as result.
It’s largely caused by Brexit, partly people retiring or changing livelihood during Covid…:.but why wasn’t this anticipated and what are we doing about it?

I want to see posters EVERYWHERE encouraging people to consider NHS careers. It’s a rewarding career, but impossible to cope and keep going with so few staff. We are escalating to NHS England constantly, saying we need a national solution. It’s beyond critical, but I’m not confident that there is a national drive to sort this out.

The economic and social consequences of ignoring this massive structural issue will be disastrous!

OP posts:
MrsLargeEmbodied · 02/06/2022 20:22

so many people gave up working during covid and have seemingly chosen not to go back. and now retired presumably.
nobody envisaged covid.

WotsitsQuavers · 02/06/2022 20:23

yesthatisdrizzle · 01/06/2022 10:30

Pre-Covid our very busy GP surgery had around 20 or so GPs on their rota and at least half a dozen in the surgery at any one time.

Now you are lucky if there's one or two, and they have cut the opening hours as well.

Where have all the GPs gone?

GPs are retiring and not being replaced quickly enough.

Our NHS Spanish Dentists have left the UK now.

Many European vets work in abattoirs and many have left. Thousands of pigs had to be culled. This is in the time of food poverty in the UK.

Brexit is shit and still unravelling but this government doesn't care if the poor people are suffering. Social Darwinism innit.

UneFoisAuChalet · 02/06/2022 20:24

Government subsidised childcare would make one hell of a difference. Where I’m from (not the U.K.), 15 years ago it was 5 dollars a day. I remember my full time working friend writing out a cheque for 150 dollars a month. It’s now 8.72 a day.

Whereas I, in the U.K., spent my entire career in part time work or juggling childcare with my husband. And I earn a good wage yet balked at paying £500 a month. Subsidised childcare would encourage people - women! - to stay in work. If you’re a single mum and the bulk of your wage is going to childcare what’s the point 🤷‍♀️

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FoodologistGirl · 02/06/2022 20:28

The main problem is Brexshit. Why would Europeans want to work in the uk when they feel unwanted. We too have a vet shortage due to staff returning home even before covid.

woodhill · 02/06/2022 20:29

It begs the question why our own workforce hasn't been trained properly.

Blair and his pushing everyone into unsuitable uni courses.

When did the skill shortage start

KateofGhent · 02/06/2022 20:30

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EmmaH2022 · 02/06/2022 20:32

Most of the articles I see about the Great Resignation are from the US. Of course, there will be different factors at play in every country, but I can't help thinking that shit treatment of workers will be worldwide.

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Xenophobic much?

NutellaCrumpet1 · 02/06/2022 20:41

Excited for them!

goingback · 02/06/2022 20:43

most businesses crying because their long term and profitable cheap labour has decided/been told to go home and others have said fuck it - not working for slave pay and conditions any more. These people have been replaced with poorly trained, unmotivated staff with even greater expectations and responsibility for the lowest amount they are legally allowed to be paid. What did you think would happen?

Chuck2015 · 02/06/2022 20:43

I’m a Labour member and have just put a suggested policy on the policy forum which I hope partly addresses this. Point is the only way to make major change is for more people to become politically engaged and push ideas through to the policy manifesto. I am involved in the party because after 2015 I could see the writing on the wall and felt I couldn’t stand back and do nothing. And I’m very busy with caring responsibilities, I had no political experience but felt obliged frankly. I have ruined many pairs of shoes canvassing for hours in the rain but there’s not enough of us to be blunt. Get involved! Please!

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 02/06/2022 20:44

UneFoisAuChalet · 02/06/2022 20:24

Government subsidised childcare would make one hell of a difference. Where I’m from (not the U.K.), 15 years ago it was 5 dollars a day. I remember my full time working friend writing out a cheque for 150 dollars a month. It’s now 8.72 a day.

Whereas I, in the U.K., spent my entire career in part time work or juggling childcare with my husband. And I earn a good wage yet balked at paying £500 a month. Subsidised childcare would encourage people - women! - to stay in work. If you’re a single mum and the bulk of your wage is going to childcare what’s the point 🤷‍♀️

UC covers up to 85% of your childcare costs, if they are provided by an Ofsted approved carer.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 02/06/2022 20:44

Sorry, that would be DWP, in addition to your UC.

PaddleBoardingMomma · 02/06/2022 20:46

Chuck2015 · 02/06/2022 20:43

I’m a Labour member and have just put a suggested policy on the policy forum which I hope partly addresses this. Point is the only way to make major change is for more people to become politically engaged and push ideas through to the policy manifesto. I am involved in the party because after 2015 I could see the writing on the wall and felt I couldn’t stand back and do nothing. And I’m very busy with caring responsibilities, I had no political experience but felt obliged frankly. I have ruined many pairs of shoes canvassing for hours in the rain but there’s not enough of us to be blunt. Get involved! Please!

Until labour can confidently and accurately tell us what a woman is they will never have my vote again, ever.

XingMing · 02/06/2022 21:00

there are a lot of sound observations here. politically unaligned personally, and not terribly bothered by the 0.3% of the population that is transgendered, unless they are predatory, but I get incredibly cross at the huge employer companies that only want people for 16 hours a week, so they dodge the costs of pensions, maternity and sick pay, while expecting the tax payer to fund the UC/WTC that don't top up earnings beyond poverty levels.

NotQuiteUsual · 02/06/2022 21:01

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 02/06/2022 20:44

UC covers up to 85% of your childcare costs, if they are provided by an Ofsted approved carer.

The problem with this is you're then locked into part time work. If you earn too much you loose the 85% and have to pay yourself. Then you're back at square one unable to afford to work. I can't work full time till my youngest is in school because of it. My workplace is crying out for more staff, but I can't up my hours.

starfro · 02/06/2022 21:02

About 1 million people left the labour market in the last 2 years. Some of it is Brexit, but the main drivers are macro-economic.

Staff shortages are also affecting Europe and the US, e.g:

www.thelocal.fr/20220530/analysis-why-france-is-facing-a-severe-worker-shortage-this-summer/

Peregrina · 02/06/2022 21:03

Until labour can confidently and accurately tell us what a woman is they will never have my vote again, ever.

Yes but if you don't get involved and tell them that no TW are not TW, biological sex exits and there are protections in law, they won't bother to listen. It's not just Labour: LD, Green and SNP have also drunk the TRA Kool-Aid. But all of the MPs involved want to keep their seats as much as the ToryMPs do.

XingMing · 02/06/2022 21:06

When I worked (now retired) I needed a FT nanny to return to work which was not tax deductible from my earnings. If I had hired a "secretary", it would have been offset against my earnings. But I had the head girl accountant.

starfro · 02/06/2022 21:06

www.afr.com/policy/economy/businesses-shackled-by-shortages-everywhere-20220203-p59thu

Staff shortages in Australia

BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation · 02/06/2022 21:07

Chuck2015 · 02/06/2022 20:43

I’m a Labour member and have just put a suggested policy on the policy forum which I hope partly addresses this. Point is the only way to make major change is for more people to become politically engaged and push ideas through to the policy manifesto. I am involved in the party because after 2015 I could see the writing on the wall and felt I couldn’t stand back and do nothing. And I’m very busy with caring responsibilities, I had no political experience but felt obliged frankly. I have ruined many pairs of shoes canvassing for hours in the rain but there’s not enough of us to be blunt. Get involved! Please!

Not until they can decide what a woman is and respect our sex based rights and protections.

BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation · 02/06/2022 21:10

Peregrina · 02/06/2022 21:03

Until labour can confidently and accurately tell us what a woman is they will never have my vote again, ever.

Yes but if you don't get involved and tell them that no TW are not TW, biological sex exits and there are protections in law, they won't bother to listen. It's not just Labour: LD, Green and SNP have also drunk the TRA Kool-Aid. But all of the MPs involved want to keep their seats as much as the ToryMPs do.

Behaviour like that will just get you cancelled. No party is seriously going to listen to anyone telling them that TW aren't women. You'd be out on your ear.

JackieWeaver101 · 02/06/2022 21:14

woodhill · 02/06/2022 20:29

It begs the question why our own workforce hasn't been trained properly.

Blair and his pushing everyone into unsuitable uni courses.

When did the skill shortage start

Simply put. we have an ageing population.

We now have nearly 13 million who are over 65 and the number of people in the UK needing care has increased dramatically in recent years.

We simply do not have enough people in the workforce to support these. This problem will escalate significantly in the coming years as the situation deteriorates further.

Mxr · 02/06/2022 21:14

PaddleBoardingMomma · 02/06/2022 20:46

Until labour can confidently and accurately tell us what a woman is they will never have my vote again, ever.

Chuck2015

Perhaps you can explain why Labour have become totally insipid, elected a leader who seems to have a problem speaking , & don't understand what " opposition " means ?

And PaddleBoardingMomma
Who rightly says...
" Tell us what ' woman ' is exactly

Ps...I don't know how to bold type a posters name, or pick quotes from a post.

Mxr · 02/06/2022 21:16

One thing for sure...

So long as ' opposition ' is confined to social platforms & keyboard warriors.......Those who are taking all the profits are just laughing !

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