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Failed Navy medical - other career options?

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BailOutChapsGingersGornSquiffy · 30/05/2022 17:39

DS1 is 22 & works as a welder which he hates.

He decided he wanted to join the navy and has been really excited about it. He’s very fit anyway and spends 2hrs a day in the gym. He’s spent 6 months jumping through various hoops all of which went really well but he’s just found out that he’s failed the medical because he had a spontaneous collapsed lung when he was 17. It didn’t require any treatment as it was a small tear.

He’s absolutely gutted 😞. (I can’t understand why they don’t do the medical stuff first - but that’s by the by).

Anyone got any ideas about other career options he could look at, he’s not very academic and struggled at school.

Thanks

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MercurysMeteor · 30/05/2022 17:52

sorry he didn’t get through… could the RAF be an option? I wonder if the navy medical is more stringent as they are further from higher level medical care when at sea? If he likes the idea of military life could be worth a discussion with them.

TheCanyon · 30/05/2022 18:06

Merchant navy? Though I went to a nautical college and I'm sure there was a LOT of heavy academic work involved.

Wor · 30/05/2022 18:06

Sorry to hear that OP.

Police? MI6? Watersports instructor? Sports coach?

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amylou8 · 30/05/2022 18:10

My son failed the navy medical because of asthma. He's now in the RFA (royal fleet auxiliary). He only joined in January, completed basic training and is now on a ship heading out to the gulf, and loving it by the sound of things.

MrPanks · 30/05/2022 18:15

If he likes the sound of a sea life, what about one of the big UK ferry companies? I went on a Northlink ferry to Orkney a few years back. Fantastic ships, beautiful scenery along the way, and Im sure with the unpredictable weather in this neck of the woods, a bit thrilling at times?

Hellocatshome · 30/05/2022 18:25

My brother failed the Navy Medical, he now works in the merchant navy, something to do with cable laying submarines or something. Alternatively I know a welder who now makes a lot of money fixing wind turbines (not specifically welding them I dont think).

tealandteal · 30/05/2022 18:30

The only person I know to have come out of the Navy is a paramedic. You can join as an Emergency Care Assistant and then do a degree through the apprenticeship levy to become a paramedic.

BailOutChapsGingersGornSquiffy · 30/05/2022 20:21

amylou8 · 30/05/2022 18:10

My son failed the navy medical because of asthma. He's now in the RFA (royal fleet auxiliary). He only joined in January, completed basic training and is now on a ship heading out to the gulf, and loving it by the sound of things.

Thanks for all the replies - really appreciate all the suggestions.

Never heard of the RFA before but this looks like a possibility, although collapsed lung is mentioned on the medical requirements it sounds like it isn’t necessarily a certain exclusion …..

Notes

1. Numbers 1–4 in the last 3 columns of the table refer to fitness categorisations to be used on seafarer medical certificates. See para 3.5 above These are:
Category 1 : Fit for sea service, with no restrictions
Category 2 : Fit for sea service but with restrictions
Category 3 : Temporarily unfit for sea service Category 4 : Permanently unfit for sea service
2. For those seafarers under regular surveillance and monitoring for a progressive condition, limiting the duration of their certificate to correspond with their next surveillance appointment should be considered. This would enable the fitness decision to be modified to take account of any new findings or changes to therapy. (N.B. A time limitation is not a restriction and no ENG 3 should be issued).
3. For some conditions, continuity of follow up is essential. Such conditions are identified by “C”. Where this is indicated, the seafarer should attend the same Approved Doctor for all medicals subsequent to diagnosis. If this proves impossible, any new Approved Doctor should only perform an examination when they have received a full report, records of previous examinations and details of the criteria being used by the previous Approved Doctor, to determine the adequacy of control of the condition.
4. Complex conditions will often require a specialist assessment of fitness for return to seafaring. Such conditions are identified by ‘S’. Approved Doctors who are not registered specialists in occupational medicine should, if they are in any doubt about fitness;
- either refer the seafarer to an Approved Doctor who is a registered specialist; or
12- obtain a report from a specialist in the relevant clinical speciality, asking specific questions which address risks relevant to the illness under working conditions at sea and fitness for the duties proposed, prior to issuing a certificate.

Condition = Pneumothorax – spontaneous traumatic

Rationale, risk basis/Justification = Acute disability from recurrence

Advice to seafarers and maritime industry. Preventative measures = blank

New diagnosis or current condition (see note 11 above) = 3 – normally for 12 months after initial episode or shorter duration as advised by specialist

Fitness category after investigation/resolution Reasonable adjustments = Based on advice of treating specialist - S, 4 - after recurrent episodes unless pleurectomy or pleurodesis performed”

Thanks again everyone.

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Happenchance · 30/05/2022 20:27

Marine Enforcement Officer
Border Force Officer
Deckhand

Feelingoktoday · 30/05/2022 20:32

Engineer in the RAF?

mushypeasontoast · 30/05/2022 21:49

Coming at this from another angle.
Ds2 was refused entry to the army due to a medical issue they picked up. We read the medical form and discovered that if he remained stable for 2 years he could reapply.

He kept himself fit through lockdown and is now reapplying. He's passed the medical this time.
The process has taken 4 years but it seems to have been worth it.

This link is to the Navy medical form

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.royalnavy.mod.uk/-/media/files/cnr-pdfs/20220308rnwebsiteafco-form5-mar-22uc.pdf%3Fla%3Den-gb%26rev%3D6bb643c604874208a23c17431876ec76%26hash%3D7089B94C776F57CFFAD38E7E3BC0E5E4&ved=2ahUKEwjZ89WKhoj4AhURolwKHYxkAMQQFnoECEgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1IOdXC3UJIwu3ddF2AKoNn

Looking at this form, it may be that your ds can reapply or appeal if that's what he wants to do. It's definitely worth a conversation with the Navy.

TargusEasting · 30/05/2022 22:19

Yes, appeal. If that gets turned down appeal again. Show them that he is not prepared to give up and he is not prepared to take no for an answer. This is half the battle.

Y0gaYawn · 30/05/2022 22:44

Welders are needed for places that need air conditioning repairs, eg for shops, warehouses, data centres, Telecommunication company technical buildings, engineering companies etc

Can he train as an electrician or mechanic to join with his existing welding skills ?

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