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Would you buy an electric car?

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poppyart · 30/05/2022 08:01

DM has just found out she is entitled to a mobility vehicle which will be driven by my DF and probably myself as she doesn't drive, to get her to appointments and help out with shopping etc.
I've had a look and seen there are electric vehicles available but I honestly don't know the first thing about them, is there anything I should be looking for? When looking for a petrol or diesel car i was looking at MPG and the shape/size for the practicality of getting her in and out so not to low or too high.
Has anyone went electric and been converted?

OP posts:
User487216 · 30/05/2022 10:52

We will get a small one as a second car, our main car is a diesel which will be replaced with another diesel for towing and travelling long distances and anything else that needs a large car.

Ifailed · 30/05/2022 10:57

I know a couple with a Mobility Mini which they are trading in for an EV (an MG ZS EV). There's a grant available to get the charger installed (the have a parking space right next to their garden). The estimated range will easily last them a week as they only make short journeys & there's enough space to put wheel chair etc in the back.
Why not arrange a test drive?

LindaEllen · 30/05/2022 11:06

The only reason I wouldn't get an electric car is if I regularly drove long distances and would have to stop to charge on the way - but so long as this isn't the case, and my home was suitable for a charging point, I would absolutely get one.

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bluelavender · 30/05/2022 11:08

Motability will install a charger at an address if you did select an electric vehicle. Have an electric car and am a big convert!

Many electric cars do have small boots though, so something to think about if you DM needs a wheelchair or other equipment. As your DM doesn't drive; the other area of Motability that you could look at with her are the electric wheelchair and scooter schemes to help her get out and about ?

Thursday37 · 30/05/2022 11:11

We’ve had electric cars since 2015, currently both our cars are fully electric, I wouldn’t go back to petrol now. It’s very easy if you have off street parking, I commute an hour a day and it costs me very little to run my car, about £25 a month on cheap rate electricity. But we are on an EV tariff which is a good idea.

Badbadbunny · 30/05/2022 11:18

Some chargers (like Tesco) may be free/cheap at the moment, but once electric cars are more popular, there'll be few cheap/free options - prices will rise as costs need to be covered. A Tesco supermarket can subsidise charging for a couple of chargers, but won't be able to offer free charging when there's 50 or 100 cars being charged in their car parks!

deplorabelle · 30/05/2022 13:27

If there is somewhere to park and charge the car overnight it will be a very good car for day to day appointments and things. Electric cars are even more efficient on short journeys and you don't have to worry about the battery going flat which on a combustion engine can be a problem if you do lots of short trips where the engine is constantly turned off and on.

If you need to do long journeys bigger than the range of the car, charging is harder. If you need to charge and continue the journey you need a fast charger. The availability of these is much patchier than it should be. If you do a lot of long drives, buy the car with the longest range possible and choose a car that has a CCS connector for fast charging as they are more plentiful on the UK motorway network (our older Nissan is chademo and it's doable but harder to charge on long journeys)

Remember in winter you will get less than the advertised top range if you are running a lot of heating in the car and/or driving into a headwind.

We absolutely adore our electric car and would never go back.

TalbotAMan · 30/05/2022 13:40

Pyewhacket · 30/05/2022 10:36

Far too expensive, to buy and repair. Build quality on Tesla is sketchy. Charging network is unreliable. They're not that green , google battery production and disposal. Batteries only last 7-10 years and replacements are £4k+.

You're out of date.

They are more expensive than a comparable ICE car but the prices are coming down all the time, and like for like the difference isn't that great. Look at what MGs cost. They need far less servicing and, although they are still relatively new on the market, it seems they need fewer repairs as they age.

Tesla build quality has improved massively (in the UK at least) over the past 2 years, since they stopped selling us cars made in the US and started selling cars made in China.

Battery production is improving all the time, particularly as 'LFP' batteries, which don't use Cobalt or Nickel, are beginning to be used. Batteries are guaranteed for 8 years by law, and while the older ones may have struggled at 7-10 years, all the signs are that newer ones will do a lot better than that.

Though as OP is looking for a Motability car, much of that is irrelevant to them as Motability contracts last for 3 years at a time and Motability pay all the bills.

PuzzledObserver · 30/05/2022 13:57

I went electric 18 months ago and have zero regrets. It’s lovely to drive, and I have replaced a £780 a year bill for diesel with about £100 extra on the electricity bill. With the rise in prices, the difference is even greater. They are also cheaper to service and more reliable than ICE cars, i.e. less likely to break down. Don’t believe the doom mongers telling you the battery needs to be replaced after 5 years or whatever - it’s a myth, the reality is that there are 10 year old Teslas around with well over 100K miles and minimal battery degradation. Some early Leafs had no thermal battery management, and their batteries did degrade quicker. New cars - not a problem.

Two key things to consider. Firstly, what is your longest regular journey? Secondly, what options are there for regular charging?

If you can charge at home, then your car only needs a range which will comfortably cope with your longest regular journey, with a comfortable margin for safety. EV’s are more sensitive to temperature and weather conditions than ICE cars, e.g. mine can do 330 miles in summer, 280 in winter. Driving fast is also less efficient (also true for ICE cars, but people tend not to notice that as much). Range is dependent on efficiency of the car, driving speed and terrain, and also the size of a the battery. Batteries are heavy and expensive, so if your usage is mainly local with just an occasional long trip, a 200 mile range could well be more than adequate, and will save you money compared to buying a vehicle with a longer range. Very few new EV’s now have a range less than 200 miles.

Charging at home gives you access to EV tariffs, which can bring your fuel cost per mile down to less than 2p. Work out what it is for a petrol or diesel car, and you will soon see why we love our EV’s so much! For example, £1.60/l and 50mpg works out roughly 14.5p per mile.

Charging away from home is not as straightforward as charging at home - and is significantly more expensive. But it’s getting better all the time, as more chargers are installed. I’ve just had a trip away, covered 460 miles. Charged 3 times: once during a loo and coffee break at a motorway service station, so no impact on our time; one at a visitor attraction where we spent 2.5 hours (and that was FREE); and once in the car park of Lidl, where we spent 29 minutes to get the charge we needed. LIDL rapids are the cheapest going at 26p/kWh, which works out about 6p per mile for my car.

For those who can’t charge at home, there are solutions which can be workable, depending where you live. Again, it is improving all the time.

amusedbush · 30/05/2022 14:21

I got a new (to me) car in March and I had hoped to go electric but I don't have a driveway (or any way of ever building one - it's difficult to describe but there's no road access to my house, only pedestrian access) and the infrastructure around here still isn't great. I saw that you can apply for a free-standing charging point from the council but the little car park we all use is technically public so I don't own the space.

I'm also a student doing everything from home for the foreseeable future and there is no student parking on campus, so that's not an option either.

Hopefully in a few years I can make the switch for my next car but it depends on local infrastructure and/or me getting a job with on-site charging.

ToastedCrumpetwithCheese · 30/05/2022 15:22

You might want to factor in home electrics costs if having an at home charger installed. In our older house with old electrics, it's recommended we have it installed directly to the fuse box and not off an existing spur. That's obviously a bigger cost.

My brother has a Tesla and a usual 2.5/3hr petrol car journey involved him also having a 1hr stop to charge on the way. He wasn't in a rush, but worth considering any longer trips and whether you're okay with a longer service station stop for charging.

Are charging stations also wide bays for disabled electric car drivers? Just wondering if that's another consideration if your mum needs a wider bay to get in/out. Not impossible as you could move the car between a disabled bay and the charging point, but a thought.

Chewbecca · 30/05/2022 15:28

Not for us as we like to do driving holidays and don’t want to plan charging into the route / timings.

Tomnooktoldmeto · 30/05/2022 16:09

We have a dual fuel automatic Mercedes B class which is the best of both worlds and great for me physically (blue badge holder)

it has a 40 mile electric range so works well locally and for school runs but when DH has distant meetings around the country the back up of petrol which kicks in when the charge runs out

We had a charger installed but did have to wait 6 months for it and as our electricity is still fixed haven’t yet moved to a car electricity tariff but we are on green electricity so unless driving on petrol we are being environmentally friendly

JustFrustrated · 30/05/2022 16:16

We've just ordered one.

Anyone who says a range of 300+ miles isn't enough

A)doesn't plan properly
B) drives unsafely. You shouldn't drive 300 miles without a half hour break.

According to EDF there are more places to charge an electric car than to fill with standard fuel in the UK.

Again to add, charging stations will only increase from here.

hattie43 · 30/05/2022 16:19

No , not yet .

I know 3 people with electric cars and not one of them would keep it without partners having normal cars .

2 of them don't get the mileage per charge they were told .
There aren't enough charging stations ( one turned up on a service station to find it broken )
Not strong enough Wi-Fi signal in some locations .
General aggravation and time to play journeys .

hattie43 · 30/05/2022 16:23

Plan

briannixon · 30/05/2022 16:23

EVs are still subject to carpark charges at Lidl and Motorway Services. Two hours can easily be exceeded if you have to wait for a charger.
One would hope those problems can be sorted easily and soon.

Babdoc · 30/05/2022 16:29

I live in the Scottish highlands and wouldn’t consider an electric car. The range is a lot lower than claimed when you are running the heating at maximum and driving into a fierce headwind, with the wipers on to clear snow, up steep hills. There are not exactly loads of charging points off the beaten track in the mountains either.
Also, they are only “green” if the electricity that charges them does not come from an oil or gas power station. If it does, once you factor in the 10% lost as heat in the transmission cables and pylons, you would be better to just use petrol directly in the car.

TomBradysLeftKneecap · 30/05/2022 16:33

We have a Tesla and love it. I don’t think the build quality is sketchy at all! We do a lot of road trips and you just have to be prepared to plan the charging into the trip which actually makes the whole trip much more laid back and not all about getting to the destination. Have a home charger which needs to be fitted by a specialist.

mafsfan · 30/05/2022 16:46

Oh yay, another EV thread where people who don't own them chime in with out of date and inaccurate advice!!

We love ours. We currently have a second one on lease whilst waiting for an already ordered petrol car to be built. If we could, we would definitely cancel the ICE car order for an EV because we have a home charger and it is so much cheaper!! Last month we spent £30 on charging and that is running 2 EVs. We're not low mileage users either. My daily commute is about 25 miles and DH does 300 miles plus each week. Living rurally and with current petrol costs, an EV is the best option by far for us.

The cost of the home charger is nothing compared to the equivalent amount we would have spent on petrol in the last 18 months.

Not sure about the boot situation. Ours don't have a smaller boot compared to their ICE equivalent. A lot of EVs have the battery platform across the base of the car rather than in the boot.

I hate the long journey argument. One of ours does 280 miles and one does 240 miles. Most people don't actually travel that far from home on a regular basis. Happily taking ours over to France next month and absolutely no concern about charging.

BurscoughBooths · 30/05/2022 16:49

you just have to be prepared to plan the charging into the trip which actually makes the whole trip much more laid back and not all about getting to the destination

sounds dreadful, if I am doing a long drive then getting to the destination is the whole point. I don’t want to have to plan a stop at motorway services, the food options are generally terrible and the outside area in which to stretch your legs and get some fresh air is usually dirty, smelly and overcrowded

User487216 · 30/05/2022 17:02

I hate the long journey argument. One of ours does 280 miles and one does 240 miles. Most people don't actually travel that far from home on a regular basis. Happily taking ours over to France next month and absolutely no concern about charging.

We go away in our caravan about 8-10 times a year, towing a caravan even with an EV capable of towing cuts the amount of miles you can do, not much fun on a journey if we have to charge it up halfway there

TrulyFubar · 30/05/2022 17:02

Motability provide you with a charge point for free. Be aware that you might have to perform your own pre-installation survey which is a LOT of info and photos they need. I say 'need' but the guy who installed mine said that he never looks at the surveys because it's not necessarily all the info they actually need. Also the installer was on his own and really needed another guy to help. DH, an engineer, was able to help out so the appointment didn't have to be rescheduled.

User487216 · 30/05/2022 17:07

They seem fine for a second car or to go to work or get shopping but are not really any good as a workhorse type car, maybe they will improve,. For what OP's DM needs it for it sounds ideal

stanfi · 30/05/2022 17:16

We did buy one and love it. Perfect for short regular journeys (range 90 miles). Charge at home.

We also have an ICE which we use once a week to stop it seizing up and for long journeys 4 x a year. When it gets too expensive to maintain, we will probably just rent a car for holidays / odd weekend away.