Page 10 | Is woo on the rise or just where I live?

HangingOver · 2022-05-29T17:24:37+00:00

I permanently relocated to the South West a few years ago after being a long term weekend visitor for about 5 years....and I've noticed the rise in the amount of woo practitioners in the area has totally exploded! They range from harmless stuff like dancing naked around the forest with no clothes on (but always mysteriously with a photographer on hand for Instagram!) to more questionable stuff like "yoni steaming" and putting their periods on their faces, to the downright alarming stuff like Kambo (if you don't know what that is it's where a lunatic with no medical training burns you then applies this stuff to the burn that comes out of a poisonous frog in the Amazon, and you really violently vomit and have the shots and sometimes your face and skin swells up). There's also a woman nearby who seems to be a sort of doula (sp?) who specialises in helping you to give birth avoiding medical intervention of any kind at all costs....which seems a bit questionable! I thought I was quite a fuzzy live and let live type but it's starting to annoy me. My lovely housemate who had a traumatic past is into it and it makes me sad that she goes to the legnths of poisoning herself to try to vomit up "bad energy" [sad] She's not bad, she's lovely. Is this just a local thing or are other seeing a rise in "magical" and "goddesses" near them?

Hawkins001 · 01/06/2022 17:31

I should of reworded it, to say why do people choose to follow certain books when the information contained usually gets reinterpreted, etc

onthefencesitter · 01/06/2022 18:17

@Hawkins001 the only constant is change really. Religions have to adapt or it will die out. I don't think we will ever be without some forn of established religion as it's too ingrained in society. Even in our secular society, it is often the churches/synagogues/mosques distributing food to the poor. If someone needs a hot meal, I would tell them go to Sikh temple. It is the mainstream religions doing this! And the mainstream religions have a history hence why they follow an old book.

i think religious institutions have an even more important part to play in a society where 20% of families are in poverty probably going to be 30%. I can't tell them to ask the government for help cos the government ain't helping. I can't ask them to get a better job because they probably don't have the skills or the means to get skills. But I can tell them to go to the local church where the priest/rabbi /imam will comfort them. My MIL is not on the breadline but in her years of raising 4 small children, Jewish charitable organizations always gave more bread than she knew what to do with.

It's all very well having philosophical views about religion but opinions don't fill stomachs. I became more religious actually when I was not suffering from poverty but was suffering from social poverty i.e. we were saving for a flat in London and were saving every penny for a deposit in our early 20s, so synagogue was a free mode of entertainment. I don't think it's a coincidence I became less religious after we bought the flat and also had more disposable income. But I am still a member of the synagogue because I see how much comfort to people who are suffering from all sorts of problems including loneliness and mental health problems. Which is endemic in the UK.

Ifailed · 01/06/2022 19:15

20% of families are in poverty probably going to be 30%

Couldn't they just get a crystal, that'd sort them out?

Hawkins001 · 01/06/2022 20:44

onthefencesitter · 01/06/2022 18:17

@Hawkins001 the only constant is change really. Religions have to adapt or it will die out. I don't think we will ever be without some forn of established religion as it's too ingrained in society. Even in our secular society, it is often the churches/synagogues/mosques distributing food to the poor. If someone needs a hot meal, I would tell them go to Sikh temple. It is the mainstream religions doing this! And the mainstream religions have a history hence why they follow an old book.

i think religious institutions have an even more important part to play in a society where 20% of families are in poverty probably going to be 30%. I can't tell them to ask the government for help cos the government ain't helping. I can't ask them to get a better job because they probably don't have the skills or the means to get skills. But I can tell them to go to the local church where the priest/rabbi /imam will comfort them. My MIL is not on the breadline but in her years of raising 4 small children, Jewish charitable organizations always gave more bread than she knew what to do with.

It's all very well having philosophical views about religion but opinions don't fill stomachs. I became more religious actually when I was not suffering from poverty but was suffering from social poverty i.e. we were saving for a flat in London and were saving every penny for a deposit in our early 20s, so synagogue was a free mode of entertainment. I don't think it's a coincidence I became less religious after we bought the flat and also had more disposable income. But I am still a member of the synagogue because I see how much comfort to people who are suffering from all sorts of problems including loneliness and mental health problems. Which is endemic in the UK.

I can understand that this day and age religions do help with society, but it's when their deity, is ment to say x, but then humans change the religious beliefs to suit the political times ect, but then it becomes not what the deity says but more what humans want the texts to be, so it's like why not created a human code, sorts thing, if old religions are no longer what their deity says, ?

onthefencesitter · 01/06/2022 20:56

@Hawkins001 I prefer to see it as our understanding of things improves with time as humans develop and hopefully become wiser.

Tbh, most of Judaism is studying what the rabbis say and their interpretation. Rabbi Hillel said What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow: this is the whole Torah; the rest is the commentary; go and learn." This can be applied to any modern situation even though rabbi Hillel lived a very long time ago.

@Ifailed they probably wouldn't get bread by looking at crystals. But would get a hot meal at a Sikh temple. Tea and biscuits at a church. Fishballs and crisps at a synagogue.

Hawkins001 · 01/06/2022 21:09

onthefencesitter · 01/06/2022 20:56

@Hawkins001 I prefer to see it as our understanding of things improves with time as humans develop and hopefully become wiser.

Tbh, most of Judaism is studying what the rabbis say and their interpretation. Rabbi Hillel said What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow: this is the whole Torah; the rest is the commentary; go and learn." This can be applied to any modern situation even though rabbi Hillel lived a very long time ago.

@Ifailed they probably wouldn't get bread by looking at crystals. But would get a hot meal at a Sikh temple. Tea and biscuits at a church. Fishballs and crisps at a synagogue.

Fair points, I just hope that one day humans will join in peace , have a one world government, because when humanity ventures into the galaxies and beyond, the horrors and wonders to be hold, so to speak.

willowstar · 01/06/2022 21:26

There is a woman near me who has recently started hosting hot chocolate ceremonies in her garden shed. To each their own etc...