Monkeypox?

[MonkeypoxThread]

Apologies if there is already a thread about this - the search function is useless atm! I will get this deleted if it's a duplication.

Just interested to read MNers views on this as I don't know what to make of the news reports, and I know there are very knowledgable MNers. I think it's hard for people with no knowledge of things like this, to gauge the "significance" of these cases from the news.

On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being "meh, whatever, fuck it" and 10 being "PANIC MODE ENABLED" I'm normally about a 3. Is that about right?

No I wouldn't.

I was pretty easy going about covid and would have preferred schools to remain open.

The last person in the uk who died of smallpox had had the vaccine

That's interesting. I was born in the 1960's and I thought that small pox was one of the routine childhood vaccinations but then I noted another poster saying it could be a dangerous vaccine so I thought maybe I was wrong .

I'm genuinely not trying to whip up any form of hysteria here but it certainly seems to be spreading faster than monkeypox has before.

With that in mind is it possible the virus has mutated and it's now easier to catch rather than needing prolonged contact?

Yes, I would have no choice, because I have to work out of the home and DS isn't old enough to be home alone. Not everyone can work from home you know.

In the 1960s, you may well have had the smallpox jab (but as protection does wane, it might not make much difference now, even if you know you had it)

The jab was finally withdrawn in c.1971, but for many years before that it was given only as ring vaccination round known cases. The jab is one of the riskier ones, but vastly preferable to running the risk of smallpox (death rate about 1/3)

@Waxonwaxoff0 I wonder if it was rife whether you would have a choice as schools may go to remote provision, as they should all be set up for that now. Not a nationwide thing but if it was an issue in a particular area

DS attended school on a KW place last time, so there would probably be something similar.

The fatality rate of monkey pox is absolutely terrifying...can be up to 10%. I did read 3% somewhere but even that is petrifying.

But people have been flying around the world for more than a century now.
Hardly a new phenomen.

Personally I cannot be doing with getting jabbed for this that and the other.

I'm not overly concerned it mainly affects children worse I think and since they got off pretty lightly with COVID (medically)

You sound deranged. I'm absolutely horrified that it affects children worse...any right minded person would be...

I think this thread demonstrates one of the problems we will face - the lack of basic knowledge of the actual facts themselves, not just peoples incorrect interpretations of the facts, if that makes sense? Sorry I am tired today and groping for words!

Reading the news reports today, I am up to a 4/5 on the Panic Scale (I think this should be renamed the Worry Scale as it's less jokey?). Not just the fear of the physical illness, but the knock on effects and ramifications of isolations etc. It will be interesting to see the number of cases reported today, and if you think of (I'm going off info on the BBC news website here) the 21 days self iso for sexual/household contacts of positive patients, or people who have changed bedding without PPE - that could be a large number of people off work for a long time. Huge ramifications.

I wonder how they will deal with self isolation for contacts or suspected cases before they have a definitive result. I think based on CV experiences and knowing now that self isolation is one of the biggest "problems", it will be hard to balance the risk of harm to the public via transmission v the risk of harm to the public via self isolations.

I think this thread demonstrates one of the problems we will face - the lack of basic knowledge of the actual facts themselves, not just peoples incorrect interpretations of the facts, if that makes sense? Sorry I am tired today and groping for words!

Reading the news reports today, I am up to a 4/5 on the Panic Scale (I think this should be renamed the Worry Scale as it's less jokey?). Not just the fear of the physical illness, but the knock on effects and ramifications of isolations etc. It will be interesting to see the number of cases reported today, and if you think of (I'm going off info on the BBC news website here) the 21 days self iso for sexual/household contacts of positive patients, or people who have changed bedding without PPE - that could be a large number of people off work for a long time. Huge ramifications.

I wonder how they will deal with self isolation for contacts or suspected cases before they have a definitive result. I think based on CV experiences and knowing now that self isolation is one of the biggest "problems", it will be hard to balance the risk of harm to the public via transmission v the risk of harm to the public via self isolations.

I think this thread demonstrates one of the problems we will face - the lack of basic knowledge of the actual facts themselves, not just peoples incorrect interpretations of the facts, if that makes sense? Sorry I am tired today and groping for words!

Reading the news reports today, I am up to a 4/5 on the Panic Scale (I think this should be renamed the Worry Scale as it's less jokey?). Not just the fear of the physical illness, but the knock on effects and ramifications of isolations etc. It will be interesting to see the number of cases reported today, and if you think of (I'm going off info on the BBC news website here) the 21 days self iso for sexual/household contacts of positive patients, or people who have changed bedding without PPE - that could be a large number of people off work for a long time. Huge ramifications.

I wonder how they will deal with self isolation for contacts or suspected cases before they have a definitive result. I think based on CV experiences and knowing now that self isolation is one of the biggest "problems", it will be hard to balance the risk of harm to the public via transmission v the risk of harm to the public via self isolations.

FFS this app! My post triple posted and then I saw a load of posts from today I hadn’t seen! I shall go back and read….

With that in mind is it possible the virus has mutated and it's now easier to catch rather than needing prolonged contact

No. Already been checked. I've explained uptrend that it's been spread more quickly than usual through a number of sex party superspreader events.
And this strain is not the one with a 10% mortality rate.
The mortality rate per the African stats is around 1% however no-one has died from it during this outbreak.

Keep calm and skip the orgies.

I snorted at "keep calm and skip the orgies"

🤣🤣

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/health-61552254

This is quite a useful Q&A.

I don’t think we are in the end times just yet though.

To you maybe. I don't find it petrifying.

Bully for you