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Can I move abroad or am I stuck in the U.K. forever?!

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bibbedybobbedy · 17/05/2022 10:40

I am fed up with the U.K. but I actually think I may be trapped here. I want to move abroad have one dc and one dh 😁
I want to move out of this small minded country but I don't think I can.
Kicking myself for not moving before brexit happened.

Is there anywhere you can move to easily with a British passport?! I'm 36 dh is 37 dc would need to go to school and is 8 yo. Dh wfh but it's the visas that restrict us. His company won't support visas to move abroad but don't mind if we take ourselves abroad off our own backs. Problem is I can't find anywhere we can go to.

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floppybit · 17/05/2022 14:28

I haven't ready previous replies, but Barbados have a working visa scheme

upinaballoon · 17/05/2022 15:20

When we are young and restless we don't think much about pensions, at least I didn't, so wherever you move to from the shit UK, just give a little thought to how your income will be when you retire.

yellowsuninthesky · 17/05/2022 15:24

Estonia has a remote workers visa scheme. I am not sure if the climate is that much better than the UK's though.

As for Australia/NZ/Canada have you looked at the visa requirements to see if you have a job they want? I think you are still young enough. When I looked you could reasonably go to Canada until you were 45, then it got harder.

Onlyrainbows · 17/05/2022 15:25

I'm an expat living in the UK, and overall the UK has been a massive disappointment. Can't wait to move somewhere else one day.

sassafras123 · 17/05/2022 15:27

Gibraltar. Warm weather, English speaking, it is however expensive for accomaodation.

AlisonDonut · 17/05/2022 15:28

AffIt · 17/05/2022 13:34

@AlisonDonut How do you get on with the locals? What do they think of you?

One side lives in the South of France [near the beach] and we had an evening with them when they came back a few weeks ago - they visit twice a year to air the place. They want us to carry on mowing the lawn and in return are buying my OH a case of wine plus we can have all the fruit in their garden that we want. Very French but we could converse relatively well enough to agree to this.

Next along are a British couple who jacked their jobs in last week and are in the process of moving over properly in the next few weeks. They are looking for a second house to buy.

Next along are another British couple here on and off.

Other side, a British couple - wife still works in the UK so they come over for each holiday.

Next along is a French couple who keep very much to themselves.

Opposite is a French lady who was a child here during WW2 and has lived here all her life. Doesn't speak any English so we are at 'good mornings/how are yous' etc.

Next door is a British Couple who live here permanently and who have offered loads of help so far, but like to keep their heads down.

Local boulingerie - Scottish lady and French man couple - very involved in the community and get on great as we see them almost every other day for breads and croissants...usually get half French and half English in there as well, we note that the shops, pubs, bars and markets are more than half English speaking when we listen to who is talking.

My Doctor and pharmacist speak English and both know me now...the local church has a community cafe with food trucks twice a week and is on the local tour for bands - so we can get to see a local band every week if we want. Most places have vegetarian options for food, and as I am veggie this is excellent.

Honestly it is great, everyone is really friendly and I've yet to see a homeless person or a food bank in any of the larger towns or cities that we have been to. Such a marked difference from the poverty in the UK.

Borracha · 17/05/2022 16:15

Dubai offers a remote work visa. However the cost of living here is sky high and schooling is all private (as is healthcare)

We’ve moved here from the UK 11 as newlywed 20 somethings looking for a change of scene. 12 years and 3 kids later we are still here, riding the highs and lows but still very happy to call the UAE ‘home’.

PeaHenChic · 17/05/2022 17:13

We are moving to a European country next year but my dh is an EU national which makes it possible for us.

I have heard that Portugal is more open to Brits post Brexit than other EU countries. We have friends who run a property letting business there and love it.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 17/05/2022 17:35

What about Gibraltar? No idea on working / tax requirements but you don't need a visa to move there. Might be worth looking at?

Crikeyalmighty · 17/05/2022 18:03

We are just moved back to the UK this week after19 months in Copenhagen. We were in a situation where on paper we could work anywhere and we went before the end of the withdrawal period- but be aware it's not straight forward. Many countries will give digital visas (google digital visas) but there are restrictions, Denmark and Sweden for instance its quite a lot of cash needed in the bank if you don't work for a Danish/Swedish company. Spain will allow it provided you have 27,000 euros a year coming in and you can't work in a job for first year- so works if you have 'remote' income or higher pensions. The big issue is with many countries that you can't work and take a job an EU citizen could do- Also in Denmark it was very hard to get a decent job of any kind if you couldn't speak Danish , even though they virtually all speak English. At the end of the day though now we are no longer in EU you have to apply , you can't just rock up and it can be turned down- they all have different criteria-- Netherlands for instance is extremely strict on professional and educational qualifications. I would tell you to really balance this up- great standard of living in Denmark but tax is very high as are prices and the great stuff doesn't always outweigh the lack of friends and family on tap - it's also become expensive to keep coming back to visit people. We did a reassessment and whilst the UK royally pees me off in many ways- so did the lack of being able to see friends and family much -

Crikeyalmighty · 17/05/2022 18:05

Ireland is though very straight forward OP- if we still think the UK is a pile of pup in a few years1, it's likely we will go there.

THisbackwithavengeance · 17/05/2022 19:44

I don't think the UK is "shit" and I know a few people who have emigrated with a big fanfare about how crap the UK is and how great their destination country was only to slink back when their money ran out and they needed healthcare. The UK was suddenly not so shit when they needed benefits and free NHS.

But I agree with the principle that it's a massive shame that Brits can no longer live and work in the EU without going through a visa process. I lived and worked in Germany and Spain in my youth and feel sad that my kids won't be able to do the same unless they are 'sponsored' or have independent means.

What about the Falkland Islands OP? Wink

bibbedybobbedy · 17/05/2022 20:37

Thanks for the replies I'm going through them now.
I know about the Barbados one and looked into it but it was for a year and school places were hard to manage. I'd move there tomorrow though!

@upinaballoon a good point about pensions. We have pensions at the moment and pay into them and if we manage to stay wfh it won't be so bad but yes we will be thinking of them too thanks. Will probably try to maintain a small place in the U.K. if we do manage to go anywhere.

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FunnysInLaJardin · 17/05/2022 20:40

OP, have you considered the Channel Islands. Accountants are in demand here and its a lovely mix of abroad but everyone speak English.

You need a licence to move here, but lots of jobs come with that.

I would highly recommend. Housing is expensive, but wages are higher to compensate.

I moved aged 27 to get away from the UK and haven't regretted a minute.

GrumpyPanda · 17/05/2022 20:45

Georgia doesn't require visas for remote workers from Western countries. Cheap cost of living, there are fee-paying English language schools. Check out the Expats in Tbilisi or Georgian Wanderers FB pages. Or dm if you want.

Windyone · 17/05/2022 20:46

Why would you want your children to go to a British school rather than a local school given the small mindedness of British people?

feellikeanalien · 17/05/2022 21:13

OP I lived in Portugal for 16 years (pre-Brexit obviously). I knew a lot of British people who had lived there for years and barely spoke the language. They sent their kids to international school and lived in expat areas. Many of the ones who were working were involved in estate agency, villa management and pool cleaning.

We lived inland in a Portuguese area and DP and I both spoke Portuguese. In the job I had that was esential. We were going to send DD to Portuguese school. However we had to return to the UK as DD has SEN and provision for that in the area we lived was very poor.

I'm not sure what things are like now but, depending on your area of accountancy you could team up with a Portuguese firm to advise expats.

I did love Portugal but now I'm back here I love where we live and it's been so nice to be closer to family.

As others have said there is good and bad eveywhere but if you can do it I would. I didn't speak Portuguese before I moved there but was pretty fluent by the time we left.

DDs British friends who are still living in Portugal mainly went to Portuguese school and although it was hard at first most of them are now fluent (usually more than their parents!!).

bibbedybobbedy · 18/05/2022 10:45

@FunnysInLaJardin I pups consider Channel Islands actually. I always thought it would be really expensive though!

@feellikeanalien I would love love to speak another language. Feel like immersing myself in a language would mean it could happen too.

@Windyone I really wish I'd moved prior to brexit and was able to and my dc to a local school but I do think it would be incredibly disruptive now they're older to just move them to a new country and also a new language all in one go. I would get expect them to learn any language though and would get them help to do so.

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bibbedybobbedy · 18/05/2022 10:46

I did consider not sure where pups came from?!

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FunnysInLaJardin · 18/05/2022 13:31

bibbedybobbedy · 18/05/2022 10:45

@FunnysInLaJardin I pups consider Channel Islands actually. I always thought it would be really expensive though!

@feellikeanalien I would love love to speak another language. Feel like immersing myself in a language would mean it could happen too.

@Windyone I really wish I'd moved prior to brexit and was able to and my dc to a local school but I do think it would be incredibly disruptive now they're older to just move them to a new country and also a new language all in one go. I would get expect them to learn any language though and would get them help to do so.

Housing is very expensive, but the general cost of living isn't particularly more expensive than the UK.

Accountancy pays well and so relative to your income the cost of housing should be manageable

Agadoodoododont · 18/05/2022 13:40

Cyprus? South is EU but I’ve been told it’s easier to relocate there than other EU countries. . North is outside EU.

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