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Will NSPCC take an anonymous report of emotional abuse seriously?

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NSPCCEnquiry · 13/05/2022 13:26

Name changed for this.

I have a relation who has two kids age 10 and 14. She has been married to their father since before they were born. They are to all outward appearances a middle class family of total respectability. They look like a Boden advert and their house looks like one for Emma Bridgewater.

Unfortunately for the whole of my relation's marriage, and especially the years that the kids have been around, her marriage has been a godawful toxic shitshow. You could write a dissertation on whether she's a victim of her husband or whether they are equally foul to each other but the kids have been stuck in the middle all their lives.

To give some examples the dad will scream to the mum in front of the kids that she makes him want to kill himself and she will scream back that he ought to just do it. He will hit himself in the face in front of the kids. She involved the children when she was having an affair but made them swear not to tell their dad. Not a day goes by without them snarling at each other, yelling, storming off or telling one another that they're ruining the others life.

In addition the dad won't share financial information with his wife and nitpicks anything she spends. He is also a godawful snob who warns the children that they're turning into 'common little chavs' and calls them losers.

Everyone in the house is wildly unhappy. The older child is having MH problems which school are attempting to tackle but crucially without the information that the children's home life is a horrible angry mess.

Now it should be noted that everybody and I mean everybody in this couple's life has been telling them to split up for literally more than a decade. Nobody thinks they're good for each other and everybody realises how shit it must be to be a child of that marriage.

But neither will. The dad won't leave and the mum is too scared of the loss of money and status in becoming a single parent. Instead what she does is tell everyone in her life how awful her husband is. We get chapter and verse on every bad thing he says or does to her and we are invited to agree that he is horrible. I even wonder if she gets a kind of subconscious gratification out of telling us how awful he is and that we fulfil that by agreeing. (Our whole family is it has to be said enmeshed and fucked up going back aways.)

But nothing changes. She never leaves, she just talks about it. She has insight into the effect that staying with this man has on her children but she won't do anything except complain about her life, cry and then stay with him for another miserable year/decade/lifetime.

In my opinion both parents are very depressed (the dad talks all the time about suicide) but neither takes any steps to address this. The dad is also an alcoholic.

My priority is the children. I am so tired of trying to advocate their need not to be living in a warzone to my relation. She will always agree and nothing ever changes. Suggestions of doing the Freedom Course, or seeing a lawyer, or getting counselling, or moving away, all fall flat. 'Oh but I can't because...'

But they can't just be quietly miserable either. They will spend their days storming around their (elegant middle class) house and calling each other cunts at the top of their voices and saying to the kids 'See? Your mother/father is ruining my life because she wants you to be unhappy!'. It is wretched, manipulative, self-absorbed stuff and I am so so sorry for the kids. To give a typical example one.parent will put a child on the phone to the other and make them relay that parent's anger. Like 'Molly, tell Mummy that she is upsetting you and you need her to stop buying things she doesn't need' or 'Jonathan, tell Daddy that you want him to stop picking on Mummy'.

It's so fucked up.

My question is, if I report the atmosphere of rampant emotional abuse these kids are living in to the NSPCC, will anything happen? Or will somebody just see that the parents are financially comfortable and have a lovely home and professional careers and polite well-dressed children, and look no further?

I don't know what to do.

OP posts:
sailrunski · 25/02/2023 20:47

Keep reporting it OP, to both school and children’s services. You're painting a picture which I'm sure school will find helpful when it comes to supporting and safeguarding the children.

shinynewapple22 · 25/02/2023 20:58

I don't think NSPCC would act themselves, that isn't their role. They would pass your referral on to the relevant social services department though . I think a lot of people are more comfortable in speaking to the NSPCC than children's services.

Blort · 25/02/2023 20:58

If you hear it/see it call 999.

You must find a way to get the kids to know they can ask for help. That secrecy rots the heart. Confidentially give them the contact number for childline so they have someone to talk to.

Write a detailed list and post to school. Most serious points first
Self harm in front of children
Threat of suicide in front of children
Abusive language said to children
Abusive language said in front of children etc.

I would post to safeguarding lead anonymously then follow up with a call so you can explain what relation you have without giving name or written proof of who you are.

Ask that the school impress upon the children a completely safe, confidential way to talk. Ask the school to go over calling police in an emergency. Ask them to check the children know what to do in threatening situations. If they cant help the least they can do is gear the children up to try and advocate for themselves and have a confidential number. There is also a free text number for kids for mental health support that may be useful for kids to know.

shinynewapple22 · 25/02/2023 20:58

Oh sorry - I should have read your update before posting .

Hotvimto3 · 25/02/2023 21:00

Why would you contact nsppc and not social services

sailrunski · 25/02/2023 21:05

Hotvimto3 · 25/02/2023 21:00

Why would you contact nsppc and not social services

Why shouldn't she? NSPCC give advice and can refer on to children's services and the police

NSPCCEnquiry · 25/02/2023 21:31

I contacted both @Hotvimto3

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Cocochai · 25/02/2023 23:03

That’s horrendous that nothing seems to have been done. I’d hazard a guess that evidence of physical abuse can be clearly seen whereas emotional abuse is more invisible and harder to prove. These children don’t stand a chance for their future MH and relationships.

As pp said keep reporting. Do you or other relatives live nearby and can have them stay at yours regularly to get some kind of respite from their home environment seeing as SS don’t seem to be interested?

Lmonaid · 25/02/2023 23:07

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CountingMareep · 25/02/2023 23:53

Sadly Children’s Services are so ridiculously overstretched they can no longer prioritise any but the most obvious and easily proved cases of abuse (where there are obvious signs of physical harm and neglect). And sometimes, as some upsetting news stories tell, not even those.

Your best hope is to be there for the kids, to let them know that the way their parents treat them is not OK, and for others to provide respite and an eventual way out.

northernlola · 02/03/2023 18:24

So sorry to read your update. It's not that the situation does not meet anyone's threshold; clearly the reality of it does meet the threshold for social work involvement. What I assume has happened is: anonymous report, enquiries have been made (perhaps just by phone if no previous concerns) and everyone has denied it - mother, father, kids, everyone has said no not here! And so it's case closed. Unfortunately an anonymous report holds less weight. Not criticising you at all. But many malicious reports are made anonymously (as well as many genuine). Therefore without any other evidence, it's impossible for services to impose themselves on the family.

I'm so sorry for those children. Can you speak to the children directly about the situation? It's going to take one of the children telling someone, e.g. a teacher.

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