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Work want me to include what I identify as in my email

43 replies

bobbingalongside · 09/05/2022 08:48

I work for an NHS trust. Still on Mat leave, probably won't return.

I have an out of office email turned on and my manager has contacted me today to ask what I identify as so she can include it for me Confused

I haven't got back to her yet. But I don't want to put anything.

Can I say that?

Should be obvious from my name unless I tell someone otherwise!!

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HRTQueen · 09/05/2022 10:00

We have been asked to (nhs)

most ignore it I can think of only a few that havre added theirs on has a unisex name and told me she gets fed him people saying i thought you were a man (as they seem disappointed, she is quite senior)

Somanysocks · 09/05/2022 10:01

Me/my. I've always identified as me so this is correct.

Cauliflowersqueeze · 09/05/2022 10:05

You/your

that would confuse EVERYONE

peanutpancakess · 09/05/2022 10:06

FasterthanBolt · 09/05/2022 09:10

I was asked. I also had my marital status added to a badge which I asked to be removed as it has no bearing on my ability to do my job. Nor do my pronouns. Luckily my boss feels the same way and backed me up when I was asked to rethink.

I'm glad you refused. What an earth does marital status have to do with anything!

intheaviary · 09/05/2022 10:10

They shouldn’t be contacting you on mat leave for a start. I’m on mat leave too for NHS Trust and this would really anger me!
I would say I don’t use pronouns and it has no bearing on my practice.

Iluvfriends · 09/05/2022 10:11

I dont identify as anything.....my sex is female.

Slothtoes · 09/05/2022 10:20

Refer to the post above with Yogyakarta principles in. None of this is legal to require of you, so you can freely say no.
If you also refer to the principles to show you’ve thought it through you are citing a source that clearly believes strongly in gender identity. So that’s frankly more consideration than this deserves. (Whether you do believe in gender identity or not is a different matter but your employer clearly does, or you wouldn’t be asked this).
So it’s a very reasonable answer to give and they can’t argue with that.

NoSquirrels · 09/05/2022 10:22

I have an out of office email turned on and my manager has contacted me today to ask what I identify as so she can include it for me

“Thanks, manager. I’m happy with the out of office as it is currently, no need to add anything.”

echt · 09/05/2022 10:23

Carbon-based life form

Myob

I do like Ffs.

GoingOnce · 09/05/2022 10:24

Just refuse to take part in such nonsense.

Needmorelego · 09/05/2022 10:27

How about
'Who/What/Whatever'
😂

Jericha · 09/05/2022 10:30

I like @ClaraLane's suggestion!

AnnieKenney · 09/05/2022 10:32

Ten things you could say:

  1. I don’t believe anyone should feel pressured to state their gender identity or sex, unless this is relevant in a particular situation (ie statistical data, accessing medical or sex specific services).
  2. I’ve spent years irritated by the ‘Miss, Mrs, Ms’ options. This feels the same.
  3. I don’t mind what pronouns are used to describe me.
  4. Women are routinely discriminated against and pressure to state pronouns facilitates this discrimination.
  5. Pressure to state pronouns is a particular problem for people who don’t have a ‘gender identity’ or for whom this is fluid.
  6. I am uncomfortable with any pressure to make purely performative demonstrations of political positions on any issue.
  7. don’t feel the need to express ‘allyship’ with any oppressed group through the way I describe my own identity or protected characteristics. In fact in relation to any other protected characteristic there would rightly be horror at pressure to announce it - religion, race, disability, class ...
  8. I’ve noticed it’s mostly women feeling pressured to state their preferred pronouns. Not men. This worries me.
  9. Some are using the stating of pronouns as a way of dividing people (mainly women) into two binary positions on the rights of trans people, where most people know the real world is more complicated. But the fear of being denounced means many are taking a deep breath, and doing it to protect themselves.
  10. It’s OK to state your preferred pronouns. It’s also OK not to.
Pickabearanybear · 09/05/2022 10:34

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LindaEllen · 09/05/2022 10:45

I'd either say no, or if they're being insistent have a Google about the various ones you can use and just pick the funniest one.

It's all bollocks.

CornishGem1975 · 09/05/2022 10:49

I think this is so so dangerous. It's potentially forcing people into making a decision about how they identify. What if people aren't ready yet to pick a box?

CornishPorsche · 09/05/2022 10:51

@CornishGem1975 that's the only "dangerous" thing you take from this fad?

ItsSnowJokes · 09/05/2022 10:59

I was asked this a couple of years ago and just replied "I don't feel comfortable to state my pronouns" they asked again a few weeks later and I again replied "I don't feel comfortable to state my pronouns and this is very triggering for people not ready to declare their pronouns" they suddenly looked panicked and have never asked since.

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