What colour are these infant reading books

[anewernamer]

Help so confused

Ds can read stage 4 songbird phonics
He can read stage 3 read with Oxford
But level 4 Oxford is much much harder, lots more words per page and detail.

What colour book band are these relative to?

Googling suggests all three are Oxford Reading Tree level 6, which is Orange band.

Stage 4 read with Oxford books are equivalent to orange or turquoise book band.

Mountain rescue is ort level 5 or first stories level 6 depending on when published.

Jack and the giants is songbirds stage 6.

Read with Oxford stage 3 is levels 4&5 and stage 4 is 6&7. I used these during lockdown last year and they are brilliant. It is all a bit confusing with levels though.

@Kingfisher5 thanks that's great. School want him reading orange / turquoise so level 6/7 by next September, but say he's not able yet. He can at a push read the harder ones, but it's more his attention span isn't there and so it's really hard work to get him to focus. But if I know that we can try those again over the summer.

Try not to worry too much about levels (easier said than done I know!). At my school (I teach y1/2) we are currently rebanding all our books in line with our new phonics scheme and having to tell parents to ignore colours and numbers as we've had to move some books around. We only move children up a level now once they have learnt all the sounds required for that level. This is what Ofsted check now too - that children are reading books that can be fully decoded by them and the stage they are working at in phonics.

September is a lifetime away at KS1 age. DS has jumped two colour levels since October and is ready to go up another one. Just relax and keep reading. More important that he's really secure at his current level than racing on.

Ort books have a peculiar structure.

They have core books (trunk) and branches off. Some of the branches are the same colour but easier some same colour but harder, then there are the phonetic books which are different again.

Bloody nightmare to yet your head round.

@Kingfisher5 that's interesting. We have a random selection of books home anyway. It started with biff & chip but then all sorts of random schemes and colours. But the school are saying as a targets to be on a certain colour.

Do they still learn new phonics in year 2 then? Does the phonics scheme end after year 2?

Each publisher has a different criteria for banding books, and this changes most years too… so realistically no band, scheme or colour level can be comparable to another. The most important thing is that the book is fully decodable for your child. That is, it contains only sounds and ‘tricky words’ that your child can confidently read. It shouldn’t be a struggle for them.
Sorry if that doesn’t answer your question!

Children should have moved on from phonics by year 2. In reality there are some that still need to continue (more so since covid).