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Why is it ok for a court case to be live streamed?

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Illstartexercisingtomorrow · 06/05/2022 19:28

Obviously I’m thinking about this becuase of Depp/Heard, but this is not a thread about who is right.

I’m just wondering how can real justice be delivered when the whole world has access to watching testimonies/reactions ?

surely no matter what the verdict the effect of seeing some of this stuff will irreparably damage reputations and cause prejudice?

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ItsSnowJokes · 06/05/2022 19:36

I think we should do it more in this country. It opens up the justice system to more people. I dont have a problem with it at all.

I dont understand why you think people watching means they won't get real justice? It's the jury that decide that. It's not a bloody Simon Cowel voting show with the world deciding the verdict.

longwayoff · 06/05/2022 19:39

I agree. USA. The entertainment capital of the world where everything has a price and is up for sale. Its utterly revolting and is just a modern version of the games at the Coliseum. Bread and circuses for us all. Awful. AH and JD will regret this for the rest of their lives when they realise what they've done to each other.

roadsweep · 06/05/2022 19:40

ItsSnowJokes · 06/05/2022 19:36

I think we should do it more in this country. It opens up the justice system to more people. I dont have a problem with it at all.

I dont understand why you think people watching means they won't get real justice? It's the jury that decide that. It's not a bloody Simon Cowel voting show with the world deciding the verdict.

Because even if Amber Heard, in this case, wins, she's been absolutely slaughtered in the media and on social media.

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MrsJBaptiste · 06/05/2022 19:41

No idea but Depp/Heard are really pissing me off - honestly, who cares? They are both hideous and not coming off well...

willithappen · 06/05/2022 19:42

I believe it's because it's seen as a matter of public interest

HotChoc10 · 06/05/2022 19:43

I read in the Depp/Heard case it was because they were getting so many media requests and were worried the jury could be compromised if journalists got to them directly.

Illstartexercisingtomorrow · 06/05/2022 19:44

I dont understand why you think people watching means they won't get real justice? It's the jury that decide that. It's not a bloody Simon Cowel voting show with the world deciding the verdict.

I know it’s not a voting show. But real justice exists outside of the courtroom as well as inside it.

Can you honestly not see how so many people will think badly of AH and how she is already being booed at when she walks out of court? Do you think this is justice?

And what if it’s the other way around and actually Depp isn’t an abuser - how many new movie deals do you think he’s going to get? No one will want to go near him even if he’s found innocent. And that’s not justice.

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lljkk · 06/05/2022 19:45

Do we know if they requested a closed trial (closed to public?). I suspect neither did.

People with big egos believe they have massive powers of persuasion & welcome opportunity to flex their persuasive powers. That's why they end up agreeing to the circus of public trials.

Would it really be so different if journos & pundits went to the trial (always a public event; this is a libel trial not a criminal trial) & reported every detail in print, tweets & podcasts ?

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 06/05/2022 19:52

It's the same premise that means in this country anyone can walk in off the street into a courtroom and observe a trial. It's about justice being seen to be done.

If the public couldn't observe as a matter of course then what's stopping one side or the other being able to bribe/influence the judge or jury? If its all secret and behind closed doors and no one would ever know?

There's employment tribunals currently being live streamed in the UK right now, and they absolutely should be, it's a basic right for the public to be able to see that they can have faith in the justice system. You'd hope that seeing it first hand would do that - but perhaps even more importantly if it doesn't, people are then informed and have evidence to be able to attempt to effect change.

The fact that swathes of the media/public are seeing the depp/heard trial as entertainment rather than legal process is deplorable. But I don't think that means it shouldn't be a transparent process visible to anyone who wants to see it.

Illstartexercisingtomorrow · 06/05/2022 19:53

Would it really be so different if journos & pundits went to the trial (always a public event; this is a libel trial not a criminal trial) & reported every detail in print, tweets & podcasts

Yes I see your point. But I think video footage has greater impact. Seeing AH’s testimony - the viewer is either going view JD as an abuser forever, or view AH as a highly manipulative performer.

Im not sure why any trial is open to journos etc. Seems to defeat the innocent until proven guilty idea.

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lljkk · 06/05/2022 20:05

Justice is better quality if it's seen to be done.
Closed (private) trials are rare because they reduce transparency.
Most American trials are open to public attendance for these reasons.
Broadcasting is another set of issues, but in general is just a way of being extra transparent.

AH & JD could have settled out of court to avoid this circus.

x2boys · 06/05/2022 20:18

It's not a criminal case ,it's just two big egos, whatever the outcome neither of the are coming across very well.

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