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Will national politics influence how you vote in the local elections this week?

46 replies

CormoranStrike · 30/04/2022 19:06

I ask this as the Conservatives had a stall in a town I was in today, Scottish, but affluent, with a couple of Tory councillors, but nobody was engaging at all with the six blue jacketed members at the stall.

I’ve no intention of voting Tory anyway, not my party of choice locally or nationally, but if I were I would be protest voting for anyone but them this Thursday.

I am sick of the constant sneeze, lies and lack of accountability - I cannot see how anyone could vote conservative currently.

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WhereIsMyBrain · 01/05/2022 07:51

Our local Lib Dem councillors are great so I’ll be voting for them. The national party barely registers- are they still going?

Conservative MPs are waiting to see the results of these elections to decide whether Johnson has become a liability rather than an asset. If you want Johnson to go, don’t vote Tory in the locals.

SonicWomb · 01/05/2022 07:58

Even if you think that the votes are different, MPs won’t. If the conservative local councillors get a good proportion of the vote, conservative MPs will leech off their success to say it proves people think they’re doing a good job. If Tories do badly (same applies for any other party) their opposition will leech onto the results to say it proves they don’t have national support.

On the basis of that and that alone I will be voting to send a message that I am not happy with the government.

SonicWomb · 01/05/2022 07:59

Oh and btw, I’m also unhappy with the opposition. So I’ll be voting LD ie independent to make sure Labour don’t take my vote as one of support either.

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MissyB1 · 01/05/2022 08:02

We have to vote strategically in our area as Labour don’t get anywhere. So I will vote Lib Dem, they have a very good chance.

I have never voted Tory and never will.

DeadButDelicious · 01/05/2022 08:08

We don't get to vote this time around. But if we were I would vote for my local councillors who have been doing a sterling job for as long as they have been in office. They went above and beyond during the worst of the pandemic, organising food parcels and craft activity packs for the most vulnerable. They are labour candidates.

newnamethanks · 01/05/2022 09:06

Of course it will. Makes little difference locally whether our council is Tory or Liberal but it matters overall and our disgusting government and Prime Minister need to receive a message that their behaviour is intolerable.

hanahsaunt · 01/05/2022 09:12

Given that our local Conservative candidate lives in our village so I know first hand just how bonkers they are it's an easy no there. However, regardless of how I vote we live in one of the bluest areas in the country so I don't foresee any change (and they will continue to be rubbish locally).

Violetparis · 01/05/2022 09:14

I never have a clue about local issues. Live in a very marginal voting area in the North, will be voting Labour in the hope it leads to the end of Boris Johnson as PM.

Fernie6491 · 01/05/2022 09:14

I have voted Conservative at past general elections, (not too sure yet what I will do at the next one!), but our council is Lib Dem controlled, and in our ward we have an excellent Lib Dem councillor, who has worked hard and done a good job for our city for many years. Therefore I shall continue to vote for him, despite my dithering over countrywide issues!

soupmaker · 01/05/2022 09:17

No, voting on the basis of the candidates who will actually serve our local community well and work cross party. Our ward has 4 councillors. 1 Green, 1 Labour, 1 SNP, 1 Tory since last election.

We've 10 candidates. The sitting Tory doesn't even live in the same Council area, let alone our ward, so he's at the bottom of the list. The Green councillor is really good so he's my number one, followed by one of the Labour candidates who was previously a councillor and was really hard working and prepared to work with others. The current SNP and Labour councillors are useless, never respond to emails and are completely tribal, so they're going down the list.

JackieCollinshasnoauthority · 01/05/2022 09:19

Which county are you @AskingforaBaskin ?

AskingforaBaskin · 01/05/2022 09:21

JackieCollinshasnoauthority · 01/05/2022 09:19

Which county are you @AskingforaBaskin ?

I'm in Wales, sorry don't really want to disclose past that I have slated my employer very openly on this site and would rather not connect all the dots for someone 😀

kimfox · 01/05/2022 09:23

No. The "party" / candidate I will vote for locally bears no relation to how I will vote in a general election.

reluctantbrit · 01/05/2022 09:50

We are in a Tory stronghold so I don't vote for them by default.
I only see cuts, I see really weird developments being approved taking away car parks and green spaces to put up high rise buildings.

We had interactions with the lead councillor for our ward to see if parking restrictions could be implemented around DD's primary school where it got extremely dangerous. He just wasn't interested. His children were driven to public schools, he wasn't interested in state school children in danger of driven over by SUV mums who didn't know the size of their cars.

Our MP is unfortunately even worse.

SerendipityJane · 01/05/2022 09:57

Parties stand for something. Otherwise people (a) wouldn't join and (b) wouldn't use them as a selling factor to try and get peoples vote.

So to try to disconnect the candidate from the party is a dim thing to do and doesn't really reflect on the reality.

Personally I couldn't vote for anyone who is happy to represent the same party the PM represents. Because joining a political party is a choice not some sort of weird pre-ordained characteristic that people are born with.

hepaticanobilis · 01/05/2022 10:00

Labour has a huge majority in my area even though the Labour run council here is not great at all, so I generally vote for an independent or the Greens or Lib Dems here just to avoid voting Labour or Tories even though it feels rather pointless. Haven't even had a leaflet through the door this time, I think no one bothers.

CormoranStrike · 01/05/2022 10:38

Our Tiey candidate’s pamphlet is weirdly obsessed by grit bins as her main focus - given we only have a need for grit bins a tiny proportion of the year, and I can only remember actually using one once in my many years, it’s an odd topic to lead her political manifesto.

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CormoranStrike · 01/05/2022 10:39

*tory

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tsmainsqueeze · 01/05/2022 13:32

I am using my vote as an absolute protest , i was intending to spoil my vote but have decided i will definitely vote labour.
Even if my local tory candidate was decent they would not get my vote.
I think a large proportion of voters will do the same this time , i am scared of the future financially , i dread to think about what is yet to come.
I think labour are far from perfect but i hope they are a bit more in touch with the reality many of us face.
I gave a tory candidate a piece of my mind on the doorstep this week , his colleague joined him and kindly explained how the local elections differ from the general 😡he quickly learned that i needed no explanation.
I would imagine that they are all hearing pretty much the same reasons as to why people are using their vote as a protest .

mummabubs · 02/05/2022 22:38

CormoranStrike · 01/05/2022 10:38

Our Tiey candidate’s pamphlet is weirdly obsessed by grit bins as her main focus - given we only have a need for grit bins a tiny proportion of the year, and I can only remember actually using one once in my many years, it’s an odd topic to lead her political manifesto.

This did make me chuckle. Our (Tory) Councillor has led with a funding pot they've just successfully acquired from the council for anyone in the village whose front gardens aren't looking very pretty so that the council came come and make it look presentable. (Back gardens not included but then they don't matter do they as the public don't see them, right? ) She's encouraging other villagers to refer (aka dob in) anyone whose garden lets the village down to her or her fellow Tory councillor. Just feels a bit tone deaf what with the high levels of social deprivation and increased cost of living that's affecting so many of us right now. That money could surely have been better spent elsewhere.

newnamethanks · 03/05/2022 10:22

Bloody hell mummabubs, that's awful. Please vote against her if possible. So much for the party of free choice for the individual. Bloody hypocrites, that's made me very cross indeed 😡

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