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Does anyone have a subscription to Debrett's and could check something for me please?

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EtiquetteQuestion · 18/04/2022 15:42

I need to write a letter to someone with the title "The Honourable" (e.g. The Hon Peter Jones) and need to get the form of address correct (addressing the envelope, opening and closing salutations).

I looked at Debrett's online, but I'd need to subscribe to get the information I need. I wondered if anyone has a subscription, could they kindly look it up for me, please?

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Delphigirl · 18/04/2022 15:48

Envelope - The Hon Peter Jones,
Letter - Dear Peter or Dear Mr Jones depending on whether you know him or not
Closing - yours (if addressed letter to Dear Peter) or yours sincerely (if used Mr Jones)

Delphigirl · 18/04/2022 15:49

You could do envelope The Hon. Peter Jones Esq.
This is more correct but seen as a bit old fashioned.

EtiquetteQuestion · 18/04/2022 15:54

Thanks @Delphigirl.

I should have said in my opening post that we don't know each other and I'd like to err on the side of formality.

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EtiquetteQuestion · 18/04/2022 15:59

@Delphigirl - is the information you've put here from Debrett's?

I was wondering about starting the letter Dear Sir, but then wasn't sure how to close it. Yours faithfully is usually used with Dear Sir/Madam, i.e. you don't know the name of the person you are writing to, but in this case I do know the name of the person.

I'm a bit reluctant to go with Dear Mr Jones as it seems a bit too informal for an "Honourable" person who I don't know...

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LizziesTwin · 18/04/2022 16:02

Use Mr in the letter as you know his name. You only use Sir or Madam if you don’t know who you are writing to.

ConsuelaHammock · 18/04/2022 16:13

Just use their name? Forget about the honourable.

Antarcticant · 18/04/2022 16:18

Is this an MP or a member of the aristocracy?

Delphigirl · 18/04/2022 16:33

It’s from me not Debretts. I have a number of these lurking in family and friends. Use Dear Mr Jones for someone you don’t know, but know their name. Finish yours sincerely. Envelope : The Hon. Mr Peter Jones, Esq. to be very correct. That’s it.

The Hon is just a courtesy. You never use it in conversation. It doesn’t mean he has any status worth mentioning himself, it just means his dad is a baronet or a life peer etc. treat him like anyone else.

Delphigirl · 18/04/2022 16:35

If it is an MP or anyone else with a postnomial you should use it. The Hon. Peter Jones, MP or The Hon. Peter Jones, QC or CBE or whatever.

they need their po

EtiquetteQuestion · 18/04/2022 17:45

@Delphigirl, this is really helpful - thank you.

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EtiquetteQuestion · 18/04/2022 17:53

@Antarcticant

Is this an MP or a member of the aristocracy?
@Antarcticant - I've messaged you.
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Antarcticant · 18/04/2022 18:51

I've replied - hope it gives you the info you need.

Snoopsnoggysnog · 18/04/2022 18:56

@Delphigirl

It’s from me not Debretts. I have a number of these lurking in family and friends. Use Dear Mr Jones for someone you don’t know, but know their name. Finish yours sincerely. Envelope : The Hon. Mr Peter Jones, Esq. to be very correct. That’s it.

The Hon is just a courtesy. You never use it in conversation. It doesn’t mean he has any status worth mentioning himself, it just means his dad is a baronet or a life peer etc. treat him like anyone else.

Yes I know a few of these and this is correct. I also used to be a secretary for a Lord so I know my stuff Grin
Kezzie200 · 18/04/2022 19:07

A work colleague once said their sister was a countess. I replied "what a coincidence, my brother is a Count...... Count Dracula"

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