Maths question

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Please can someone really clever in Maths help me out. I know you are out there

Just got an allotment and it's 10 rods which is roughly 2700 square meters. I need to buy a fence for one side and everywhere it asks for the length in cm.

Please can someone convert 2700 square feet into cm for me?

Thank you so much.

Is an allotment a standard shape? If you have a long thin allotment you'll need a lot more fence along that side, than if you have an allotment that's roughly square-ish!

No, because you can’t convert an area into a length.

It can only be calculated if the allotment is a perfect square - is it?

The old unit of a rod is ~ 5m (though it seems to vary) or 16.5ft.

You are massively mixing up area and length though.

A rod is a unit of length. So 10rods is ~50m or 5000cm.

However you talk about 2700 square meters and then 2700 square feet.

Nowhere have you said whether your allotment is square or rectangular (or something else).

ie. Please be more clear!

You question doesn’t make sense. You need to know the perimeter length of your plot. Knowing the area isn’t going to help much there unless it is a regular shape like a perfect square, circle or equilateral triangle.

Do you mean square metres or square feet? I suspect the latter as 2700 square metres sounds really big.

However, If you want a fence for one side, you need more information because the area could be long and thin, or square with 4 even sides, so in these cases, 'a fence for one side' could be any of these lengths.

You need to measure the side you want the fence for. Or if one of the other alottments has a fence the same length, you could measure a section, eg a fence panel, count the number of panels, and multiply those two numbers if it's too long to measure easily.

Your allotments 2.7 square kilometres ?

Cross posted with everyone else.

I think the 10 pole size is a standard area for allotments, which is apparently around 250 square metres so the OP just added an extra zero by accident: www.nsalg.org.uk/allotment-info/

That being said, it's the shape of your 10 pole allotment that will determine how much fencing you need. If it's the shape of a doubles tennis court, you'll need less fencing than if it's one of those very long and thin or triangular plots that sometimes you see along railway lines. They might have the same area but very different perimeters.

Your allotments 2.7 square kilometres ?

That would be 7,290,000 square metres.

10 rods
2700 square meters
2700 square feet

Argh, what’s the next unit? 343 wheelbarrows?

Found this about rods etc:

“ Allotments are traditionally measured in rods or poles (they're the same thing). A pole is a measure of area equal to 16.5 by 16.5 sq ft, or 272.25 sq ft. This is approximately 30 sq yards or 25 sq metres.”

So your 10 rod allotment is about 250 sq metres. If that was a square, the total perimeter (all around the outside) would be about 63 metres. If it’s a rectangle- which it likely is - then the total perimeter would be larger than that.

But of course knowing the whole perimeter still doesn’t tell you how long one side of it is.
Can’t you go and measure? Or email and ask them?

Oh god sorrry you can see I can no idea what I am talking about

The wordings on the agreement is;

Plot Dimensions;
You will note that the area of a plot is quoted in rods (or square rods). A square rod contains 30¼ square yards or 272¼ square feet. A standard 10-rod plot, therefore, contains approximately, 2,700 square feet.

I have attached a picture of it but obviously not the whole plot is mine!

A rod is a measure of distance - 10 rods is around 50 metres.

Is 10 rods the perimeter of your allotment?

If you only want a fence for one side no one can tell you the length of that side based on the total perimeter; your plot could be square or rectangular and the side you want to put a fence on could be a long or short side.

You're going to have to measure it (in person or potentially from a satellite photo on Google Maps).

Thank you everyone for helping me.

Can’t you go and measure?

That would be the safest method. Twice, preferably.

(Cross-posted: ah. square rods)

You need to measure the perimeter (each side) of your plot because it's impossible to say without knowing what shape your plot is.

@Zazdar

Can’t you go and measure?

That would be the safest method. Twice, preferably.

It is really unusual to put a fence down one side of your allotment. If the fence is to go down the exterior of the allotment site, it would be the management company's job. If you put one down the side of your plot, it restricts access.

Go and visit the site, take a tape measure.
Work out a plan for shifting the grass and weeds, is it couch grass?
Get to know your plot neighbours.
Make a sketch of the site and get planning.

Go onto google maps, and go to where you allotment it.

FInd the option to measure a distance.

Click at one end of where you want the fence, and then the other and it will tell you exactly the distance between.

I used this to measure weed fabric for mine, and it came within an 2 inches of the place I needed it to get to. The more accurate at placing your click the better.

PestorPeston thank you and great idea to measure it physically.
It's not unusual on this site as many have fenced off both sides. I have 3 small children and wants to keep them off other peoples' plot and the safest way would be to have the fence as they would understand where the boundary is. Actually, the allotment officer gave me this idea which I think is practical.
And thank you Xiaoxiong you sound very knowledgeable in all things allotment! And thanks BarbaraofSeville and CountessOfSponheim some good tips there.

AlisonDonut fantastic idea, thank you

Mumsnet has a thread for veg growing
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/gardening/4427839-The-Vegetable-Patch

Don't try and do it all in one year. Make half of it into a lawn for the first year. Get the Kids a pop up tent, to keep them amused and out of the sun. Some sort of shed is essential.
Good luck.

PestorPeston thank you so much and will post there.
Some lovely ideas you have given me, the kids are super excited as we don't have a garden. We only got the keys yesterday and they went there after school and were so happy. The kids are 6, 4 and 1.

The previous tenant left everything in the shed so the biggest job is to clear the shed first which will take time, then repair the shed which is huge. The plus point is the tenant left behind all his tools and equipments so we don't have to buy those.