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Irish passport eligibility

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irishpassporthelp · 12/03/2022 18:02

Hi, I'm wondering if anyone can help. I'm hoping to apply for an Irish passport, my grandad was born in Dublin before moving over here and marrying my nan. My dad is not registered on the foreign births register.
Am I eligible for an Irish citizenship?
Thanks

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Donatella · 12/03/2022 18:08

As I understand it, yes you are, but you would need all the paperwork to prove it. Do you have your grandfather's birth certificate?

alexdgr8 · 12/03/2022 18:08

i believe you only need one GP born in ireland.
but you'll need to check their regulations.
www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html

alexdgr8 · 12/03/2022 18:09

it's easy to get copies of certificates.

irishpassporthelp · 12/03/2022 18:12

Yes I can apply for a birth certificate, only info I don't have is my Irish grandads mothers name, nobody seems to know it! But I can provide his fathers name, place of birth, name and dob, hopefully that should be enough

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SwedishEdith · 12/03/2022 18:13

You are eligible but need to be added to the Foreign Births Register first. If your grandad and dad are still alive, you need all of their birth certs and yours, their marriage certs (and death certs if any of them are dead). Get all that paperwork first and then follow the instructions here
www.dfa.ie/citizenship/born-abroad/registering-a-foreign-birth/

MrsHamlet · 12/03/2022 18:13

You are but you have to be entered in the FBR before you can apply.
You'll need all of your paperwork, plus that of you dad, and your grandfather

GeneLovesJezebel · 12/03/2022 18:14

My DH has done this. He allied for his DF’s birth certificate, marriage certificate, and a copy of his own birth certificate.

GeneLovesJezebel · 12/03/2022 18:14

*applied

Decorhate · 12/03/2022 18:24

You need to apply for citizenship first & once you get this you can apply for a passport. American relatives have done this off the back of grandparents who emigrated > 100 years ago. You’ll need to collect birth & marriage certificates & the whole process will take at least a year.

Muffinbutton · 12/03/2022 18:28

I'm in the process of applying to register as a foreign birth, similar situation to yours. I applied 13 months ago! I'm expecting to hear back within the next 6 months. So not a speedy process

dazzlingdeborahrose · 12/03/2022 18:35

Your dad was automatically an irish citizen because he was one of his parents was born on the island of Ireland. You would need to be registered on the foreign births register and then you can apply.

irishpassporthelp · 12/03/2022 18:55

Thanks everyone ! My dad was born in England and had never applied to be on the foreign births register.
Do I still need my dads marriage certificate even if he's divorced ?

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Boood · 12/03/2022 19:30

If you have a parent born in Ireland (either Northern or the Republic) you’re automatically a citizen. If only a grandparent, it’s not automatic and you have to apply.

WalkingOnSonshine · 12/03/2022 19:32

Once you are on the FBR, any subsequent children you have will also be eligible, but none born before & it stops with them.

Hasselhoffsheadband · 12/03/2022 19:37

Why do you want an Irish passport, out of interest? I keep feeling like I should get one for me and my kids, but the expense and faff puts me off because I don't really know if its worth it.

irishpassporthelp · 12/03/2022 19:43

@Hasselhoffsheadband

Why do you want an Irish passport, out of interest? I keep feeling like I should get one for me and my kids, but the expense and faff puts me off because I don't really know if its worth it.
I want to be an EU citizen again if I'm being totraly honest! I'd like to be able to move around more freely and maybe one day leave the uk
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irishpassporthelp · 12/03/2022 19:43

I've applied for my dads birth certificate but still unsure if I'll need his marriage certificate as I'm not sure what that'll be needed for ?

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HoneyItIsntGoodLuck · 12/03/2022 19:47

@Hasselhoffsheadband

Why do you want an Irish passport, out of interest? I keep feeling like I should get one for me and my kids, but the expense and faff puts me off because I don't really know if its worth it.
Freedom of movement in the EU.

DH is applying for our DCs’ Irish citizenship and therefore passports, for this reason.

Livelifeinthebuslane · 12/03/2022 19:49

@Muffinbutton

I'm in the process of applying to register as a foreign birth, similar situation to yours. I applied 13 months ago! I'm expecting to hear back within the next 6 months. So not a speedy process
I applied 25 months ago! I saw someone say theirs came through in 27 months so hoping I'm soon. It was 9-12 months before Covid but they stopped processing them completely for a while.
notprincehamlet · 12/03/2022 20:06

I've applied for my dads birth certificate but still unsure if I'll need his marriage certificate as I'm not sure what that'll be needed for ?
I think you only need a marriage certificate to evidence a change of name (probably not an issue as your dad/granddad probably didn't change their name on marriage)

Hasselhoffsheadband · 12/03/2022 20:11

I just don't know if the reality of 'freedom of movement in the EU' is worth the hundreds of pounds it would cost to get me and my kids one, especially as my DH can't get one. I am definitely not planning on moving from the UK and you can obviously still travel in the EU. Maybe when my kids are older I will consider it a bit more for them, or if the situation changes further I guess.

irishpassporthelp · 12/03/2022 20:34

@notprincehamlet

I've applied for my dads birth certificate but still unsure if I'll need his marriage certificate as I'm not sure what that'll be needed for ? I think you only need a marriage certificate to evidence a change of name (probably not an issue as your dad/granddad probably didn't change their name on marriage)
Shit just thought actually. My dad was adopted but kept his dads surname and just added new surname on. It was a very informal adoption though he was adopted by his auntie so not like it was a closed adoption or anything but it was definitely officially done
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Livelifeinthebuslane · 12/03/2022 20:41

My grandad seemed to gain a name between birth and death, so I did wonder whether they'd challenge it was the same person! Possibly a confirmation name, I don't really know, and still waiting....

When I entered information to get a copy of my grandad's birth certificate I had the wrong date of birth by a few days, and wrong mother's first name, as my dad and aunt were both in their late 80s when I asked, my grandfather died young in the 1940s, and they'd never met their grandmother, but someone called David from the registry phoned me up and suggested a certificate that was close and it turned out to be right.

WalkingOnSonshine · 12/03/2022 21:08

Both my mum and Nan had different names on their birth certificates and marriage certificates. I just included a cover letter explaining, and I got an email asking to confirm that they were the same people & it was fine.

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