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How to save money on food bill (& energy)

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NewMamma21 · 12/03/2022 04:31

Sparked by reading a few other threads I’m wondering how you save money on the food shop / cheap meal ideas & how you save money cooking?

Things like egg & chips (what else would you put with this?), beans on toast, padding meals out with lentils.

Another thread also got me thinking about the energy used to make meals. We love a hot baked roll in this house (the kind you buy pre packaged part baked) but that means turning the oven on just to cook 2 small rolls to go with soup.

I have no idea if it’s more economical to steam veg in the microwave, bake in the oven or steam/boil on the gas hob.

What are you doing to save money cooking?

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limitedperiodonly · 13/03/2022 21:26

@merryhouse

Stuffed lamb hearts cooked with red wine in the slow cooker, mash, veg and gravy made from the cooking juices.

I know people balk at eating hearts but we get enough for the four of us for £2.70ish. Just remember not to try to eat the top tubey bits and it's actually quite tasty, and meatlike in texture nothing like liver or kidney.

@merryhouse you're a heart lover too! Braised lamb hearts with carrots and mash is our macabre Valentine's dinner. I agree they're really meaty but completely tender (I cut the tubes out with scissors) as long as you slow cook them and when you slice them they don't look like hearts - they just look like sliced meat and they taste like lamb. Because no one wants them they're about 20p each which is enough for one person with all the rest of the stuff. Your best bet is the butchers especially if you have a lot of Turkish or north African people nearby.

I love kidneys - they do not taste like wee and are incredibly cheap and quick to cook with recipes on the internet. I also love liver but especially chicken livers fried with chopped onion and bacon cut in matchsticks then simmered in a bit of stock on mashed potato. Do them with frozen peas which you can cook in the same pan. They're really delicate - better than lamb or pig liver. They're cheap fresh but even cheaper frozen. Sainsbury's sells them for about 50p for 250g but I bet other places do them cheaper. Don't overcook them. Eat them pink in the middle - they won't hurt you.

All these things are really meaty and low fat and will fill you up. They're also richer than other meat in iron so good if you're pregnant or anaemic and don't bung you up like iron supplement pills.

I accept though that most people won't eat offal. Fresh pork is a really good buy as is chicken. A whole chicken works out much cheaper than portions. You don't have to eat it whole but cut it up into six or eight pieces and put what you don't need yet in the freezer. You'll see how easy it is to do on the internet and find recipes. Save the wings to fry crispy - you never get raw wings in the supermarket. You also get the skin. Supermarkets take the skin off because they can make other things out of it. I like skin but if you don't, throw it away. I don't bother with making stock or soup out of the bones but people do.

Same with other meat. It's cheaper to buy a shoulder of lamb or joint of pork and cut it into cubes for casseroles rather than ready prepared cubes.

I find kIppers too strong but I do like fresh or smoked mackerel. Fresh mackerel looks and tastes beautiful and it's so cheap - and one of those oily fish you're supposed to eat.And tinned tuna and salmon.

Buy yellow sticker fresh meat. I really don't understand why people are too embarrassed, especially now. I like ready meals and will get them because they're nice but your best buys are meat - especially if you get a fillet steak or something else you wouldn't normally buy.

I've started getting all kinds of frozen food - boneless fillets of salmon, cod or haddock. You can bake them in foil with a bit of butter and have them with rice, potatoes, couscous. I also like bags of uncooked frozen jumbo king prawns (shell on) or a seafood mix of squid, prawns and little queen scallops. You can make risotto or paella with some frozen peas. Also a handful of frozen sliced mixed peppers - though they've run out lately. Apparently it's down to the increased cost of heating the greenhouses they're grown in.I can still get the fresh ones but they are leaping in price.

Frozen mince is a lot cheaper than fresh and just as good so long as you watch out. I shop in Sainsbury's all the time because that's my nearest supermarket. Their own brand bags of frozen mince taste the same and have the same fat content as the fresh stuff. It looks like pink worms in the bag but is honestly exactly the same. You can cook it from frozen and reseal the bag so it's miles more economical.

Tinned beans like red kidney, butter, cannelini etc are better than dried because though dried are cheaper the cost of fuel is going up. I like dried lentils though - not so much the red that go to mush but the green ones. Puy ones are best and not that expensive if you're not eating that much meat.

Cabbage and carrots are cheap and last. Broccoli is cheap but goes yellow quickly. Slice the stems for stir fries. I never buy potatoes full price. My best is 24p for 2.5kg.

Sorry to chew everyone's ear off about this. I love it and everyone needs to save money now. Thanks if you've got this far Grin.

And thanks to everyone for such great tips.

limitedperiodonly · 13/03/2022 22:09

I do my own roast potatoes but that said I like most Aunt Bessie stuff including Yorkshires and dumpling mix. Both are a very good way of making stuff go round and I always made my own. My mum was rubbish at Yorkshires but I used her dumpling recipe - flour, suet, pinch of salt so not much of a recipe. Then she gave me a bag of Aunt Bessie's dumpling mix and told me to try it. It's like witchcraft and relatively cheap so I have never gone back.

whatsthestory123 · 13/03/2022 22:22

copying from what i wrote on another thread and adding

yep just got delivered 40 x 25kg coal worls out at £7.50 a bag bargain as normally £13 a bag and 4 builders bags of hard wood £240 for the open fire which kicks out lots of heat

24hrs after my delivery the price for the coal has goneup by £40 shock

this now will last till next summer/autum and can really turn the CH down and we can keep the lounge really warm as im disabled and need heat in the day come winter time

im on a fixed rate till August so have upped my DD with eon and am £300 in credit but putting a little more in will hopefully soften the blow as they have not contacted about the increase yet

always get the chimney swept so thats another £60 and have a carbon monoxide alarm

been saving for my water bill which is normally £250 a year so have 400 and saved for my house insurance normally £300 got £600 so im all good with that end of things

its now been 7 days and have submitted meter reading and have saved approx £10 with watching the heating and leccy but still have the heating on just low temp and for less, normally use about £30 a week but todays figures have saved £10 in a week and im in all day

luckly had some home improvments last year so nothing really needs doing atm

but will be watching with interest as im sure their will be some good tips

im going to take a trip to Aldi this week and stock up on pasta/wheat products i use

its worth planting a couple of tomatoe plants,so easy and i grow the cherry ones,clean then pop in the freezer saves on tins and the outlay is minimal,going to plant 4 plants this year you can als boil and sieve to make passata etc

looking to grow some new items this year
any reccs?

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DespairingHomeowner · 13/03/2022 23:24

@whatsthestory123: for grow your own I’m planning:

  • lettuce, spinach, chard (these will be my best money savers I think)
  • cherry tomatoes & baby peppers - needs a v sunny spot though - will grow in pots
  • strawberries (I have the plants so will divide & also give some to friends) & plant up another berry (blueberries or raspberries/loganberry or similar)

I like blackberries too for pies/jams/freezing for porridge but can pick for free in local open space so not going to plant

Once you factor in the cost of pots, compost, plants etc it doesn’t necessarily pay off in year 1, & can lose a lot to slugs/birds, but many of these plants are perennials so it’s a 1 time cost. I prefer to focus on what is expensive to buy & spoils quickly vs potatoes/carrots/onions

Fruit trees are also v worthwhile as require minimal care but you are usually looking at 2-3 years before it’s a worthwhile crop - I already have a couple of apple trees, looking at a plum or cherry to add (plums are better croppers usually, with a cherry tree I’d wonder if the birds would get there first)

I also have some mature grape vines and these have produced an amazing crop - planted about 1.5 x 3 m and have crates of grapes (this is London suburbs)

Best bet is to find a keen gardener as most start too many seedlings:)

whatsthestory123 · 14/03/2022 00:14

[quote DespairingHomeowner]@whatsthestory123: for grow your own I’m planning:

  • lettuce, spinach, chard (these will be my best money savers I think)
  • cherry tomatoes & baby peppers - needs a v sunny spot though - will grow in pots
  • strawberries (I have the plants so will divide & also give some to friends) & plant up another berry (blueberries or raspberries/loganberry or similar)

I like blackberries too for pies/jams/freezing for porridge but can pick for free in local open space so not going to plant

Once you factor in the cost of pots, compost, plants etc it doesn’t necessarily pay off in year 1, & can lose a lot to slugs/birds, but many of these plants are perennials so it’s a 1 time cost. I prefer to focus on what is expensive to buy & spoils quickly vs potatoes/carrots/onions

Fruit trees are also v worthwhile as require minimal care but you are usually looking at 2-3 years before it’s a worthwhile crop - I already have a couple of apple trees, looking at a plum or cherry to add (plums are better croppers usually, with a cherry tree I’d wonder if the birds would get there first)

I also have some mature grape vines and these have produced an amazing crop - planted about 1.5 x 3 m and have crates of grapes (this is London suburbs)

Best bet is to find a keen gardener as most start too many seedlings:)[/quote]
thank you never tried chard
im lucky that i have plenty of pots compost and tools
yes i fancy growing peppers doyou grow from seed or plants?

i have a apple tree that needs a good pruneand and have two good cropping grape vines but think they are wine grapes,never tried them

some good ideas thanks

dipdye · 14/03/2022 00:41

Bought a big ham which is turning out to be a bargain.

We had roast ham, mash and peas last night. I made a pea and ham soup with around two cups of the chopped ham today, which we had for lunch. For dinner tonight we had a ham, veg (onions, broccoli, mushroom, red pepper) and cheesy pasta bake. There's tons of it leftover too.

There's still some ham left so I'll do a quiche tomorrow probably.

whatsthestory123 · 14/03/2022 00:42

sounds wonderful

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 14/03/2022 01:15

Ridiculously stupid idea that only just occurred to me recently. Making smoothies from elderly fruit. I hardly ever buy fruit because it's bloody expensive compared to veg, but my mum insists on shoving it at us, and she buys so much that we never stand a chance of eating it before it goes manky.

Throw some brown banana, grapes, apples, pears, kiwis etc. into a blender. Portion it out into plastic tubs. Freeze. When you really have no nice treats in the house, defrost it, add some cheap apple juice. It tastes lovely, it's healthy, and you're not wasting food.

Alrightqueenie · 14/03/2022 03:03

If I'm using the oven then I'll bake a few cakes and scones for the cake tin and freezer. I'll also roast veg & drumsticks for the next day's meal and for soup.

beautifullymad · 14/03/2022 16:12

@dipdye

Bought a big ham which is turning out to be a bargain.

We had roast ham, mash and peas last night. I made a pea and ham soup with around two cups of the chopped ham today, which we had for lunch. For dinner tonight we had a ham, veg (onions, broccoli, mushroom, red pepper) and cheesy pasta bake. There's tons of it leftover too.

There's still some ham left so I'll do a quiche tomorrow probably.

I like the magic ham. Which I think goes further than the mythical Mumsnet chicken! Our does ham egg and chips, quiche, ham sandwiches and pea and ham soup. Quite a versatile tasty choice for around £5.
h0rsewithn0name · 14/03/2022 17:22

Thank you @Carpediem15 @beautifullymad and @AdaColeman for answering my questions about heating up frozen meals and chickpea curries.

It's nice to know that there are some mumsnetters who are more adult than me. :)

NewMamma21 · 14/03/2022 21:03

@limitedperiodonly

I do my own roast potatoes but that said I like most Aunt Bessie stuff including Yorkshires and dumpling mix. Both are a very good way of making stuff go round and I always made my own. My mum was rubbish at Yorkshires but I used her dumpling recipe - flour, suet, pinch of salt so not much of a recipe. Then she gave me a bag of Aunt Bessie's dumpling mix and told me to try it. It's like witchcraft and relatively cheap so I have never gone back.
I love a dumpling but never tried to make them before. I make yorkshires, roasties etc from scratch but use a packet mix for stuffing. I like the idea of a packet mix for the dumplings too. What do you eat them with? I’ve only ever had them in stew.
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HemanOrSheRa · 14/03/2022 21:10

Ooh I love liver. No one else here does so I buy a few slices from the butcher and have mine with mash, green veg and onion gravy then dehydrate some for the dogs for cheap dog treats. I also love a leftover liver sandwich with brown sauce! I'd love to give heart a try. Does anyone have tried and tested recipes to share?

NewMamma21 · 14/03/2022 21:11

Some great ideas! & some nice meal idea I’ll look up recipes for.

I’m feeling reassured that we already do quite a lot to save money with cooking & have some good new ideas to try. I like the sound of the paper towel in a bag of salad, salad never seems to last very long.

We have a combi microwave & have never tried the other settings so I need to try that out. An air fryer is becoming more and more tempting.

I boiled veg tonight & seasoned after instead of roasting, using things up for weaning foods or in smoothies is a good tip, thanks.

We had a bad habit of boiling the kettle to put water in a pan before using the hob, won’t be doing that anymore & now I think about it no idea why we were doing it in the first place!

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AdaColeman · 14/03/2022 21:17

@h0rsewithn0name
“It’s nice to know that there are some mumsnetters who are more adult than me.”

All done by smoke and mirrors in my case! Wink Wine

HemanOrSheRa · 14/03/2022 21:54

@NewMamma21

Some great ideas! & some nice meal idea I’ll look up recipes for.

I’m feeling reassured that we already do quite a lot to save money with cooking & have some good new ideas to try. I like the sound of the paper towel in a bag of salad, salad never seems to last very long.

We have a combi microwave & have never tried the other settings so I need to try that out. An air fryer is becoming more and more tempting.

I boiled veg tonight & seasoned after instead of roasting, using things up for weaning foods or in smoothies is a good tip, thanks.

We had a bad habit of boiling the kettle to put water in a pan before using the hob, won’t be doing that anymore & now I think about it no idea why we were doing it in the first place!

We've had an air fryer for years. I bought a cheap Tower one mainly for DS to use to make beige food snacks! But we used it much more than I expected, so we bought a Ninja dual zone air fryer just before Christmas. We get loads of use out of it.

We all work shifts/nights, eating at the same time isn't always possible so it's great for making individual meals without using the main oven and baking dishes like batch cooked cottage pie/lasagne. But it's large enough to cook a whole meal too. And so quick! I roasted a 1.8kg chicken in it yesterday, it took about an hour with no preheating. Crispy chicken wings are delicious, though I do give those about 8 mins in the pressure cooker first, chicken breasts take about 10 mins or so. I bash them to an even thickeness before seasoning/marinating then cooking, to reduce cooking time. Sausages take about 8 mins. Well worth the initial cost I think.

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 14/03/2022 22:17

I am a quiet convert to what must now be known as the mythical MN ham Grin 500g of unsmoked gammon joint has added to at least five meals over the last week. Not just as the main part of the meal, but to bulk out sandwiches, pasta dishes, soups, as part of snacks, etc. Once it's cooked & cooled, you can slice it absolutely razor thin, and because it has a strong flavour you don't need to use too much.

My other tip is soup/casserole mix, if supermarkets still do it? Lentils, barley, split peas etc. Add it to soups & stews with plenty of stock and it really does bulk the meal out, much like dumplings do.

I'm such an old gimmer MN that I remember the original 'how to feed your family for £30 a week' thread, and one tip on there was to make a smaller dinner, but always have something for pudding. Even if it's just bananas & custard, or tinned sponge pudding, you feel like you've had more food for some odd reason if you make pudding a bit of an event. I can remember crumbling one flake over three bowls of Value vanilla ice cream - and it worked! Our brains are wired oddly around food.

Dogknowsbest · 14/03/2022 22:17

I've noticed some noodles only require to be sat in boiling water for a few minutes. Same with couscous - toss it in a bit of oil and it's a carb source that literally only requires a boiled kettle. Potato waffles in the toaster rather than under the grill with fried eggs. My fave Sunday brunch.

DespairingHomeowner · 14/03/2022 22:35

@sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea: your point about desserts is a really good one and not one that I’d thought about

Things like custard, crumbles etc are inexpensive, warming/filling and pretty nutritious in the grand scheme of things

coodawoodashooda · 14/03/2022 22:42

Homemade soda, bread

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 14/03/2022 22:45

@DespairingHomeowner It's such a simple tip, but it really did help, especially if you make the distinction between sweet snacks (biscuits, cereal, etc) and actual pudding, like crumble, custard, a slice of sponge pudding. Sometimes you just need a bit of sweet stodgy food!

HemanOrSheRa · 14/03/2022 23:02

[quote sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea]@DespairingHomeowner It's such a simple tip, but it really did help, especially if you make the distinction between sweet snacks (biscuits, cereal, etc) and actual pudding, like crumble, custard, a slice of sponge pudding. Sometimes you just need a bit of sweet stodgy food![/quote]
I absolutely agree with a pudding/dessert, particularly for children (and DP 🙄). DS is 17 and will scoff snacks forever but if he has a cooked meal + pudding then he's done. He had a small (for him) leftover roast dinner tonight plus apple crumble and custard. I haven't heard a peep from him since 8pm Grin.

Carpediem15 · 15/03/2022 18:32

@HemanOrSheRa

Ooh I love liver. No one else here does so I buy a few slices from the butcher and have mine with mash, green veg and onion gravy then dehydrate some for the dogs for cheap dog treats. I also love a leftover liver sandwich with brown sauce! I'd love to give heart a try. Does anyone have tried and tested recipes to share?
I don't eat meat but dh does and when we were in M and S the other day saw some Lambs Liver for about £1.30 (not a yellow ticket) so bought it and he had liver and onions for dinner then what was left over he had in a sandwich for his lunch also with brown sauce. It is a long time since he had any liver and asked for it again in a couple of weeks - nice cheap meals he said.
2bazookas · 15/03/2022 18:43

Batch cooking (from scratch). When I make soup, bread, curry, pasta sauces, mince, etc I cook enough for several meals, eat one and and freeze the rest in 2-person portions. Make two loaves, two pies etc.

When cooking veg, I 'll have one sort cooking in the bottom of the pan and another in a steamer above it. Just one ring.

limitedperiodonly · 16/03/2022 00:32

@HemanOrSheRa here's my macabre Valentine's recipe for hearts braised in red wine. It's for four but I cut it down to two people which is Valentiney. It uses wine which is not the cheapest of ingredients but I balance that with the very cheap hearts.

It's from a book called Sophie Grigson's Meat Course which was from a tie-in with a Channel 4 programme 30 years ago. It's brilliant for beginner cooks and she has chapters on all sorts of meat from fancy to cheap and one on offal. You can probably find it on ebay.

Serves 4-6

5 lamb hearts
2 onions, sliced
3 garlic cloves, chopped
1lb carrot chunks
2 sprigs rosemary (but I hate rosemary so I use dried thyme)
2 sprigs parsley
450ml red wine
300ml hot water or light stock
2tbsps red wine vinegar
Grated lemon zest
SAlt and pepper

Method

  1. Oven heated to 180C or Gas 4
  2. Using scissors, snip tough tubes from top of hearts but leave whole
  3. Brown hearts in oil in a frying pan and place in casserole
  4. Fry onions, garlic and add to casserole with carrots and herbs
  5. Pour wine into frying pan, bring to boil stirring up brown gloop. Add to casserole with vinegar and hot water/stock and salt and pepper
  6. Cover, transfer to oven, cook for 2 and a half hours.
  7. Lift out and slice hearts. Arrange as prettily as possible in bowls on a bed of carrots and onions. Pour on gravy, Sprinkle with chopped lemon zest and parsley. Eat with mashed potatoes and broccoli or something else green.
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