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Can someone in the know explain the Roman Abramovich and Chelsea FC situation to us all please.

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A580Hojas · 02/03/2022 20:22

Obvs he's a Russian oligarch and has been close to Putin. What does his decision to sell the football club mean?

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greenlynx · 02/03/2022 22:15

I don’t think that is what he said, I read that he said he would donate the net proceeds to a charity for victims of the conflict without specifying which victims

@marqueses
Thank you for correcting me, I’ve checked and you’re right.
He’s trying hard to escape justice. I hope he won’t.

whatsthestory123 · 02/03/2022 22:28

well i should imagine selling his Kensingtom Villa for £125 million may take time

no surprise he is not sanctioed yet the russians are keeping London etc going

ive heard the Russians are moving their super yacht's away from European waters,as usual by the time sanctions are put in place and that's a pretty big if all their wealth/planes/houses etc will all be saunted away out of reach

sillysmiles · 02/03/2022 22:54

@whatsthestory123

well i should imagine selling his Kensingtom Villa for £125 million may take time

no surprise he is not sanctioed yet the russians are keeping London etc going

ive heard the Russians are moving their super yacht's away from European waters,as usual by the time sanctions are put in place and that's a pretty big if all their wealth/planes/houses etc will all be saunted away out of reach

Almost like the delay in imposing sanctions after they were announced was to give them time to move assets beyond reach..... Almost like politicians didn't want to upset mega rich oligarchs....

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FrustratedTeddyLamp · 02/03/2022 23:02

Also I reckon the charity will be in Russia or somewhere off shore and there will be very little trail of money being put into the foundation.

trollopolis · 02/03/2022 23:13

Almost like politicians didn't want to upset mega rich oligarchs....

Nor football fans.

GallopingHighRoad · 02/03/2022 23:26

These sanctions will make little difference. The cash flows generated from oil, gas and other commodities are colossal. This is more so because that wealth is concentrated in the hands of a minority of people. The oligarchs.

The best way to launder that money is to buy things. Oli Garch doesn’t need much cash - even if though he only eats oysters and Japanese beef. He only needs one yacht, one football club and one private jet. What’s the point of having ten?

So by far the most of this money goes into an offshore company registered in Panama. The shareholders are two companies; one registered in Cyprus and the other in the UAE, run by local notaries. Cash from oil, gas and commodities each year gets sent to those companies and invested in a range of things from shares in Apple to artwork in France. For an oligarch we are talking several hundred millions of dollars a year, surplus cash to be reinvested under a tangled web of anonymity.

How do you sanction a company in a Caribbean island registered in the name of a local notary where there is no link to Oli? How do you even know the company holds assets in the first place? These islands and tax haven states often have no public register.

When you look at the Times Rich List, the £2bn attributed to Oli is just the tip of the iceberg. This is the best guess of the tangible things associated with him. The yacht, the jet, the house in St George’s and the villa in Cannes, plus £200m invested in a Russian TV station or a timber factory to explain how he pays to fill the jet with fuel and can pay for the oysters. But in the shadowy background, there is another $10bn spread across many different companies. These companies are untouchable. Is the US Navy going to send the marines to Panama to seize the accounting records of a company registered there? And what would it prove?

GallopingHighRoad · 02/03/2022 23:31

@DetailMouse

I wonder what the Oligarchs think of all this. It must be a bit of a disaster for them or are they so well set up with funds outside Russia they won't notice?
Exactly this. The biggest travesty is that money was never reinvested in Russia. How prosperous would ordinary Russians be now if it had?
Tigersonvaseline · 03/03/2022 07:33

We should stop calling them" oligarchs" really And call them pirates because that's what they do.

whatsthestory123 · 03/03/2022 08:22

@GallopingHighRoad

These sanctions will make little difference. The cash flows generated from oil, gas and other commodities are colossal. This is more so because that wealth is concentrated in the hands of a minority of people. The oligarchs.

The best way to launder that money is to buy things. Oli Garch doesn’t need much cash - even if though he only eats oysters and Japanese beef. He only needs one yacht, one football club and one private jet. What’s the point of having ten?

So by far the most of this money goes into an offshore company registered in Panama. The shareholders are two companies; one registered in Cyprus and the other in the UAE, run by local notaries. Cash from oil, gas and commodities each year gets sent to those companies and invested in a range of things from shares in Apple to artwork in France. For an oligarch we are talking several hundred millions of dollars a year, surplus cash to be reinvested under a tangled web of anonymity.

How do you sanction a company in a Caribbean island registered in the name of a local notary where there is no link to Oli? How do you even know the company holds assets in the first place? These islands and tax haven states often have no public register.

When you look at the Times Rich List, the £2bn attributed to Oli is just the tip of the iceberg. This is the best guess of the tangible things associated with him. The yacht, the jet, the house in St George’s and the villa in Cannes, plus £200m invested in a Russian TV station or a timber factory to explain how he pays to fill the jet with fuel and can pay for the oysters. But in the shadowy background, there is another $10bn spread across many different companies. These companies are untouchable. Is the US Navy going to send the marines to Panama to seize the accounting records of a company registered there? And what would it prove?

very good explanation thanks
ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 03/03/2022 09:31

I would recommend McMafia by Misha Glenny on the kleptocracy that developed after the fall of the USSR.

I’m sure these Oligarchs have resources stashed all over the place. They will have physical assets like cars, artwork, wine, antiques etc as well as precious metals and gems. There will be strategic investments through layers of shell companies in places that don’t look too hard.

liveforsummer · 03/03/2022 16:58

I'd assumed it was to prevent people boycotting the stadium, refusing to play the team, protesting there whilst Russian owned?!

ENoeuf · 13/03/2022 12:43

@ChazsBrilliantAttitude Ive just bought that as you reminded me that I’ve seen it recommended loads of times. Quite keen to read it - it looks good.

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