Why isn't the climate crisis being talked about much on here?

[sdra]

It's Armageddon dire. www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/ipcc-climate-report-updates-un-b2024751.html

Is it because people feel they can't do anything about it? Don't believe it? Media doesn't ring alarm bells much so we feel we're sleepwalking into a disaster? Am genuinely curious as to why it's not really discussed on mumsnet. It's the same IRL. Covid. Yup. The war. Yup. Climate? Never.

“It does feel like we're sleepwalking into a disaster.”

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People don’t care. They will care when the shit hits the fan I suspect, but until then crack on innit.

@Calennig electric cars can run on renewable electricity.

People really need to educate themselves, there is due to be a 400% expansion of offshore wind by the end the decade. I am no fan of Boris and the Torries but they are doing okay on climate change.

@Momijin we need to stop burning fossil fuels, farming is a relatively minor emitter by comparison.

To be honest I thought it was! It has been on the news every night, knocked off only by the threat of WW3. There is only so much ordinary money poor people can do. What do you want us to do?

@Calennig electric cars can run on renewable electricity.

Obviously

I pointed out that several local solar farms and offshore wind projects have been curtailed or blocked on enviromental grounds.

If renewable enegery projects near us are being blocked - and other energy sources face critism then there won't be the enegery to run these cars.

In many case better public transport in area is better enviromentally than more cars even if they are electric.

As others have said people are pretty maxed out on worry and it’s not immediate enough.

I don’t know what the answer is but I don’t believe electric cars are etc. I live rurally working in community nursing, I don’t live near my DC school or near shops but I mainly use my car for work and occasionally for days out at the weekend, it’s a small 1.2 petrol so not a gas guzzler, I don’t have a drive and have to park on the street far from my house so not sure how I’d charge an electric anyway but I rely on my car and that’s not going to change.

I get my shopping delivered, I recycle, we have meat free nights and get our milk from a machine on our street that comes from the farm. I don’t have a tumble dryer and I rarely have my heating above 18 but I cannot reduce my car use

@Calennig we already have this issue in my area of Scotland, very bad issues currently with not enough carers etc, it’s a mix of poor pay and the fact there are more elderly live in this area than there are young people to look after them, there isn’t much here for young people outside of healthcare of agriculture so they move away to cities pretty quick

@Cattenberg

I don’t think the human brain (or any brain) has evolved to cope very well with this sort of threat. We don’t know exactly how and when climate change will affect us. We also don’t know exactly how much we have to do to mitigate it (as individuals). Well, I don’t anyway.

I sometimes think that if a meteorite was due to collide with the earth, on say, 1st October 2023, we would grasp that situation much better and different nations would work together towards a common plan to deflect/destroy the meteor. But climate change is somehow too intangible, even though it’s happening now.

It is affecting us already, just we aren't feeling it as much in the west yet. The problem is that climate change isn't even a gentle getting worse, there can suddenly be unstoppable tipping points.

Nothing is as important as climate change. Covid is nothing, nothing in comparison.

We only have a few years left to make sure that our planet is still fairly habitable. After that, we will have to make changes but life will be pretty uncomfortable.

The 3 storms in quick succession last week? The heatwaves, the flooding? They will be normal.

We have all the solutions, just a few people want to get a bit richer for a while longer. That is the only thing stopping us.

I find discussions on climate change on here to be very gendered and class based. It's always the school run, washing, having too many children, disposable nappies that are the problem, never things that are traditionally in the domain of men. And if we all just had cotton clothes that we bought from locally sourced boutiques and drank nothing but oat milk (which costs 2-3x cows milk) and weren't so selfish then it'd all be ok. So basically if you're a single mum who feeds their kid chicken for dinner and dares to buy clothes at Primark then you are the devil

@Carbiesdreamhouse I agree. I also find that I shut off when people start with the you will have to give up this and stop that etc, people just won’t engage with that

@derxa

Because I don't want to hear a whole load of shite about animal agriculture 'destroying the planet'.

This. Always with factoids from the Americas.