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If you had to learn a new language very quickly, where would you begin?

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strawberriesarenot · 17/02/2022 19:57

Enough to get by with some manners etc. obviously not a whole new language.
I've got 4 weeks.
I can't get on with duolingo- the sound effects drive me nuts, that owl and all the squawking.

I would really welcome some advice and suggestions, thank you.

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formalineadeline · 17/02/2022 19:59

It might help to know which language?

furballfun · 17/02/2022 20:01

One to one or two to one lessons with a native speaker for several hours a day, ideally one who speaks English! (I have actually done this in the past). Or are you trying to combine this with a job/family/other responsibilities?

MadameFantabulosa · 17/02/2022 20:03

One to one lessons for 3+ hours a day with a native speaker, then self study for a few more hours. I got to C1 level in 10 weeks this way.

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strawberriesarenot · 17/02/2022 20:04

formalineadeline

Sorry, should have said. Panicking a bit. Italian. It's for work.

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Janek · 17/02/2022 20:04

Michel Thomas CDs, although I think there's now an app you can buy the sound files/lessons from.

StartupRepair · 17/02/2022 20:04

There is a website called italki where you can book lessons with native speakers delivered via zoom.

Janek · 17/02/2022 20:05

Cross post, I definitely recommend Michel Thomas for Italian.

strawberriesarenot · 17/02/2022 20:05

Yes, I am combining it with a job, family and absolutely no money. I could buy books. Self employed. Tax has wiped me out, so..

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BillyBarryBoo · 17/02/2022 20:08

Watch films in Italian with subtitles. Choose a 5 min segment. Watch with the subtitles. See what words/ phrases you recognize. Watch a few more times. Now watch without subtitles.

converseandjeans · 17/02/2022 20:09

Memrise is free of charge

D0lphine · 17/02/2022 20:10

Why do you have to learn it out of interest?

If it's for work could you ask them for either funding or time to learn?

RitaJosephina · 17/02/2022 20:18

I'll go against the advice here and suggest qualified teacher (regardless of nationality) rather than native speaker. They will be able to explain certain grammatical rules and show you how to learn. Native speakers have slight advantage if you want to practice speaking skills, but that's it really. I'd recommend enrolling to short intense course and practice a lot at home.

TheSpottedZebra · 17/02/2022 20:20

Also, what do you need to do?
Speak only/converse? Read? Write?

PollyCreo · 17/02/2022 20:21

@BillyBarryBoo

Watch films in Italian with subtitles. Choose a 5 min segment. Watch with the subtitles. See what words/ phrases you recognize. Watch a few more times. Now watch without subtitles.
I agree. And watch Netflix with Italian subtitles.
strawberriesarenot · 17/02/2022 20:21

@D0lphine

Why do you have to learn it out of interest?

If it's for work could you ask them for either funding or time to learn?

Self employed, so no!
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strawberriesarenot · 17/02/2022 20:23

@TheSpottedZebra

Also, what do you need to do? Speak only/converse? Read? Write?
Mostly converse. Answer questions ( some from children). Be sociable and polite.
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dipdye · 17/02/2022 20:23

Watch kids cartoons in Italian, with English subtitles. Kids books in Italian

Melassa · 17/02/2022 20:31

Do you already speak another Latin language, like French or Spanish? If you do 4 weeks is doable. If you have other non Romance languages then it’ll be a stretch but still fairly doable. If monoglot then it will be more of a challenge.

I disagree Italian films with English subtitles. If you have zero knowledge you should start the other way around so you see the words. Better to start with children’s programmes. Maybe start with Peppa pig in Italian, they all speak clearly.

If you do need enough to be able to converse fairly comfortably in 4 weeks from absolutely zero, then you will need an intensive course/tutor. Peppa pig and the other TV and radio is useful as a complementary tool but is of limited use on its own (unless you are 2).

WheresYourSnickers · 17/02/2022 20:36

Sorry it probably doesn't help, but you reminded me of this IT Crowd episode where Jen speaks Italian 🤣
Any chance you could take it till you make it?

WheresYourSnickers · 17/02/2022 20:38

fake it till you make it.

Zezet · 17/02/2022 20:45
  1. Focus on pronunciation first. Of words and of sentences. Repeat after people (or recordings) again and again. You will be much easier to understand, you will understand better, and you will get a sense of the language.
  1. For the vocabulary, Anki is brilliant if you can find a good stack. Try to find a word stack with only nouns, they are easier to remember and most useful.
  1. Then, for learning verbs, adjectives, prepositions and so on, find a way to learn full sentences. It can be an Anki stack, a Disney movie you know well in your own language, recipes if you like cooking, whatever. Pick the right type of subject to learn the right kind of sentences. You will soon be able to mimic the structure of these easy sentences while swapping the key nouns for others you have learned (see step 2) and this will allow you a much broader range of usable vocabulary more quickly.

Experience: I speak seven languages, to various levels, and have moved around a LOT for my job. This includes Chinese, Russian and a bunch of roman and germanic languages. My partner is a native English speaker with less language exposure so with him I've seen what's essential for those of us who don't have all grammar terms in their heads and still need to pick up a new language efficiently...

Forget declension and too much grammar. For now, focus on frequent sentences. You will pick up a lot to get buy, and the real grammar can come later. Also a waste of time: numbers (too hard), adjectives, typical expressions, children's books (way too specialised a vocabulary), apps that gamify but don't focus on one thing in particular (you don't have enough time to waste to spend it in such an untargeted way...)

drspouse · 17/02/2022 20:47

I use Duolingo for Spanish and there is no squawking.

TheWayTheLightFalls · 17/02/2022 20:48

Pimsleur. No squawking.

Zezet · 17/02/2022 20:48

Spend enough time finding the right materials. Don't feel that'd a waste of time. It's not.

And when you have been picky enough with your materials, try to master them really really well. It pays off more than trying to do a bit of everything.

TheSpottedZebra · 17/02/2022 20:51

Mostly converse. Answer questions ( some from children). Be sociable and polite.

Then I'd get some lessons, znd brief your teacher well. Lessons can be online, doesn't necessarily have to be a teacher, you just need some phrases and to get talking. Ideally record the lessons so you can practice loads before your next lesson.

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