Holiday entitlement help

[Flowersandbread]

Hi, hoping someone can help me. I work 2 days per week, Tuesday and Friday. As far as I'm aware I'm entitled to 11.2 days statutory holiday and as per gov.uk my employer can include BH within this. I've looked at our holiday planner on our work app and it says 11.2 days incl BH.

Because I work Tues and Fri can they make me take a BH Monday as a days holiday? I guess in theory if they tried to do that most of my allowance would be used up by BH's?

There's an extra BH this year right? So do most people just get an extra days holiday or does it come out of entitlement?

I'm quering because my contract of employment actually says 8 days excluding bank Holidays and my thinking right now is that as long as I'm working a tues/Fri I'm getting a better deal with the 11.2 but if my work days changed I might not have as much choice about when I took holiday?

I am not an HR expert but have worked at a junior level in HR teams. I think that only the BHs where you would normally be working would be included in your annual holiday entitlement. So I suppose good Friday only really?

No you wouldn't use any days from your entitlement to cover a day you don't work. People who work Mondays have less choice of when to take their holidays as some of their entitlement will be used up on bank holidays.

You'd need to ask about the extra one this year

I work 4 days a week for a government agency (England), so I guess we what we do with p/t holidays is “right”. I get 0.8 the standard leave allowance plus 0.8 the normal Bank hol allowance. I only need to take a day’s leave if a BH falls on my normal working day. This year my bank hol allowance has an extra day added (well 0.8 day) and the full time people have an extra entire day. No one will be working on that day, the gov have decreed it to be an additional day. Our standby teams will be paid on bank holiday rates. It should not have to come from your leave allowance.

I work Tuesday to Friday, so I need to take Good Friday out of my leave allowance, but not Easter Monday. In June, the extra BH is on a Thursday and late May BH has been moved to. Friday, so I’ll have to take both those, but not any Monday BHs.

This system almost always works in my favour by not working Mondays.

Is it just a generic system so everyone's says inclusive of bank Holidays?

This is how it is done in my company:
Using 40% as you work 2 days/week
Entitlement = 40% of full time holiday + 40% of the number of bank holidays a year
So the first thing here is that the minimum you should have is 40% of 20 + 40% of 9 which would be 11.6. There is an extra bank holiday this year - 11.2 would be right in a normal year as that is 40% of 20 plus 40% of 9.
So I would query your allowance. Also, if your company gives full time staff more than 20 days annual leave then your allowance should be more, 11.6 is this years minimum.

Then the query is how you take it. As your normal work pattern will include 15 April, 3 June and 27 December this year, it depends on your company policy. If you take these bank holidays off then this will come off your holiday entitlement, so after these 3 you will have 8.6 days leave of your choice. My company allows part timers to choose if they work a bank holiday or take it - so effectively we book each bank holiday like we would any other holiday if we we choose to take it. But your company is within their rights to say you must take any bank holidays that fall within your normal working days as leave - it’ll depend on the type of job you have and company policy.

Hi op. 11.2 sounds correct assuming a full time person gets 20 days. Employer should round that up to 11.5.

If your normal working day falls on a bank holiday, then you need to take annual leave for that day. (Ie you would need to take AL good Friday). But if it’s a normal Monday BH then you don’t. Because that’s not your normal working day!

However, as you say, this year has an extra BH. So this year’s entitlement is 11.6 (so I assume your employer would round up to 12).

I work Tue, Thur, Fri. The BH that fall on these days (four next year) come off my entitlement. Any others don't as I wouldn't be in work anyway.

Your employer doesn't have to automatically offer the extra bank holiday as paid leave so it depends on the wording of your contract. That's why you should speak to them about it.

Your employer doesn't have to automatically offer the extra bank holiday as paid leave
Gosh really? I didn’t know this! But the extra bank holiday falls on her normal working day. Surely they can’t make her take it off yet not give her any allowance for it. If everyone else is off the OP should be off.

I didn't say OP should be penalised compared to other staff just that there isn't automatic entitlement to the extra bank holiday for anyone.

www.wirehouse-es.com/annual-leave/extra-bank-holiday-in-2022-an-employers-guide/

Those saying her current entitlement is wrong - it depends when her leave year runs. If it runs April-March, then the additional bank holiday falls into next year’s allowance so this year’s is right. If it runs Jan-Dec then yes, the additional bank holiday should be taken into account (if they are giving it to full-timers).

Are you holiday alliance January 2022- December 2022, It will be 8.2 because of good Friday, the queen’s jubilee banks holiday which is a Friday and the Christmas Day banks holiday which also falls on Tuesday this year

The 11.2 includes 2/5s of the BHs.

If you aren't contracted to work Mondays then you don't use your BH portion for those. If a BH falls on a Tues or Fri then you have to use your entitlement to cover those.

My employer would gift the Jubilee in the same proportion so you would get 2/5s of it. So a couple of hours added to your entitlement.

Thank you all the replies.

I should have said we have Christmas and NY off as extra and my year runs jan-dec

Thank you again for the help. So currently it works out better getting the 11.2 but if my work days changed to say a Monday the 8 plus BH would be better

Don't swap days to a Monday!

No it wouldn't be better to change to a monday. Is that what you're saying? Working Monday would mean having to use more annual leave to cover the Monday Bank holidays

If you worked Mondays instead of Tuesdays (so still 2 days a week) you would still have the same overall entitlement but would have to use more of it to cover the bank holidays that fall on a Monday.