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When will Johnson go and how/why?

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ENoeuf · 12/01/2022 20:42

I think he will go on whatever off his own terms he can hang onto. So my prediction is the report comes up, it scapegoats civil servants and he does the ‘honourable thing’ and resigns as he is ultimately in charge. I wonder if he is promising to go soon so he doesn’t get pushed.

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Reallycantbesarsed · 12/01/2022 20:44

I was temporarily excited when the ‘party’ political broadcast came on at 7 …instead it was all about his achievements!!
Very convenient that the Andy distraction was announced today !

Ifailed · 12/01/2022 20:48

He won't go yet, who in their right mind would want to take over in the current situation?

They'll let him take the blame and hope things start to look better before getting rid.

ENoeuf · 12/01/2022 20:49

Yes I wonder if they planned it! 😂 her maj on the phone offering to release the news if BJ just takes the heat off for a couple of hours😂

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HermioneWeasley · 12/01/2022 20:52

If he was going to go voluntarily, he’d have gone by now.

Despicable man. His party need to get some courage and remove him

SquishySquirmy · 12/01/2022 20:53

Well he keeps surpassing my expectations of what he can smirk his way out of.

So when he does go, it will be in a blaze of arrogant, incompetent illegality.

Maybe he'll be forced to resign after being televised on a mad bender where he burns a flag, snorts coke off the queen, then storms into the houses of parliament singing and piss soaked. While naked.
Then again, he "works very hard" and "its probably all Carrie's fault" and "he mangles Latin very cleverly" and "but Corbyn" so he'll probably get away with that too.

ENoeuf · 12/01/2022 20:53

Wasn’t their a leak he wanted to go by Easter though? Not enough salary? This gives him an out and an exit to the lucrative dinner party circuit.

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PlanetNormal · 12/01/2022 20:54

He isn’t going to resign. Boris Johnson has never done the ‘honourable thing’ in his life. Not once.

He achieved his life’s ambition when he became PM and he will have to be prised out of Number 10 with a crowbar. If the Gray report finds against him, he won’t resign unless he is prosecuted for breaking covid laws. Which isn’t going to happen. He will, however, probably face a vote of confidence by Tory MPs. if he loses, he will have to step down as leader. If he wins, he will not face another vote for a year. He may be so wounded that someone challenges him for the leadership.

My guess is that he will somehow get through this and lead the Tories into the next election, but that could be almost 3 years away and a week is a long time in politics…

ParsleySageRosemary · 12/01/2022 20:54

The bigger problem is what is there to replace him with. Jacob Rees-Mogg? Rishi Sunak? Neither are in anyway capable of representing anyone I value as a prime minister of our country.

ENoeuf · 12/01/2022 21:01

Wow really - you think he could be here for the next election? I was thinking long gone and a lessons learned shiny new Tory party presented to the lemmings.

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ENoeuf · 12/01/2022 21:02

On the radio someone actually said they thought Rees-Mogg would be a decent PM. Which reminded me that there are a huge number of Tory voters who are likely to overlook the parties etc.

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BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation · 12/01/2022 21:06

It's so undignified when they have to be prised out of office. It just makes people despise them all the more.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 12/01/2022 21:06

I would have agreed with you with JRM. I was listening to the local radio, they had a chap on who’d been campaigning for funding for a disabled child. He’d been successful and it was an inspiring story. At the end of the report they thanked JRM. I couldn’t believe I’d been listening to him. It was a few years ago, pre covid etc. I hadn’t ever heard him as a local MP and was impressed.

No idea how he’d behave as PM.

AffIt · 12/01/2022 21:08

@ParsleySageRosemary

The bigger problem is what is there to replace him with. Jacob Rees-Mogg? Rishi Sunak? Neither are in anyway capable of representing anyone I value as a prime minister of our country.
Christ.

The other possible alternatives being Hunt or Gove.

I am not, never have been and never will be a Tory voter (I'm Scottish, I'd sooner remove my own eyeballs with a teaspoon), but this whole scenario is the Platonic ideal of 'be careful what you wish for'.

NinaDefoe · 12/01/2022 21:09

Rees-Mogg? God help us.

ENoeuf · 12/01/2022 21:11

So you all think he will be kept there as a placeholder until someone emerges as a clear candidate? Interesting. I think there would be no shortage of applicants tbh.

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2tired2bewitty · 12/01/2022 21:12

Give it a couple of weeks then “terrible toll of covid on his health, achieved what he set out to with glorious Brexit, time to step back to spend time with young family and allow fresh blood to lead us onwards to the glorious sunlit uplands…” Hmm

Andtheyalllookjustthesame · 13/01/2022 09:42

I think his days are numbered, maybe he will last weeks probably not months, definitely not the year

PerkingFaintly · 13/01/2022 10:15

this whole scenario is the Platonic ideal of 'be careful what you wish for'.
This.

a lessons learned shiny new Tory party presented to the lemmings.
And this.

Hemingwayzcatz · 13/01/2022 10:31

Let’s not forget that JRM is against all abortions, even for victims of rape. There’s somehow someone even worse than Boris, crazy I know.

I don’t want any of them in power, we need a whole new government. Twelve years of this shit now, when will people realise it just isn’t working.

TheWhalrus · 13/01/2022 10:40

His MPs seem to be defending him (publicly at least) today. He can't be thinking he can hang on until the next election can he....a YouGov opinion poll today has the tories vote share on 24%....if this was a vote share at an election this would be 6% worse than John Major when he lost to Tony Blair. Only Robert Peel has performed worse than that at a general election, and that was 1835!

I get that this is only one opinion poll, although this is without all the bad news to come on price rises, tax increases, energy bills etc. Surely better that the tories take out the trash now and seek a fresh start with someone else.....anyone else.

Thymeout · 13/01/2022 11:17

He'll go - but he'll use the Long Covid defence. The May 20th party was only weeks after he was discharged from hospital. Friends and family begged him not to go back to work. But his country needed him. Brave Boris. Noble Boris. Putting the country first. Only he could save the nation from the pandemic.

Carrie wasn't at the party as a guest. She was acting as his carer, to whisk him away when she saw he was struggling.

He tried to do the same with Patterson. Tragic circumstances of wife's death caused misjudgment over corrupt practices. Eden's cancer has been used to exonerate him from Suez.

Some tame Tory yesterday was telling Sky that the gathering was to thank the staff for rallying round Raab when he was acting as PM because BJ was gravely ill in hospital. There was a timeline in yesterday's independent. Straws in the wind.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 13/01/2022 12:43

The thing is who replaces him.

What makes people think they'll be such a lark. Better the devil and all that

ENoeuf · 15/01/2022 16:25

He is still hanging in there for now. Someone suggested today on the radio he would get through it because of his charisma. Think it was a guest on one of the LBC shows.

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