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Friend would have given birth but no word on the baby? *possible trigger of loss*

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Purplependant222 · 12/01/2022 05:18

I have a friend who I used to see fairly regularly before she got married just before the pandemic. She’s from a fairly traditional Muslim family but has a degree and has worked until recently. She said it wasn’t an arranged marriage but her parents encouraged her to marry a man they introduced to her a few months beforehand. On her wedding day she told me that he was nice and they got on but she’d rather not hang out with him 1-1. Apparently he was in it for the same reason and he did seem nice/supportive. She also said point blank that she wasn’t wanting kids, and if she was it would be yeaaaaars away - she always said she hated them and loved working.

She’s the kind of person who will happily host 40 people but not actually talk to anyone; she’s extremely close to her family and would never do anything to bring them shame, her parents idolise her (met them a few times) and while she was born in the U.K. her culture/lifestyle/outlook very much aligns with that of her parents.

Anyho, I’ve not seen her since prepandemic as she moved away to her husband’s city. I suggested meeting up a few months ago and she said she couldn’t as she was due any day! We had spoken sporadically when she must have been pregnant but never mentioned it, nor any sign on SM. Time has passed and there’s no mention/evidence of baby or husband.

Life on Instagram is no different, pictures taken at home is no evidence of baby living there, no pictures of baby/announcement, seems to be posting life on Instagram the same as pre-pandemic (always shopping/sightseeing/fancy restaurants). She’s always been into documenting every little daily life on SM (you know what she’s made for lunch, bought shopping, who she’s met up with, what her granny is wearing).

At the time of her being due we spoke every night by text. One day she wasn’t online and that’s when I presumed she had gone into labour. I asked her how she was doing a few days later with no answer; fine, probably preoccupied I thought.

A few weeks later we spoke again over text but was very surface level, also I didn’t want to pry thinking that maybe she’d want to talk about prepandemic lifestyle to take her mind off if anything was going on.

I’m not sure what I’m asking really, something doesn’t feel right and I’m worried. There’s no sign of her husband on SM (all wedding/honeymoon/date night photos deleted), at no point did she mention on SM she was expecting, pre labour chats seemed off, there were no updates of her doing the nursery/buying baby clothes let alone anything post birth, her LinkedIn is gone and all of her SM have gone incognito.

I’ve been wondering what to do since I didn’t hear from her labour but presumed the worst had happened/extremely ill baby. But didn’t want to jump the gun incase baby wasn’t ill, but just being kept extremely private and I fell off the mailing list.

We were meant to meet up last weekend but I had to quarantine but I’m really worrying myself sick on what’s going on. Out of everyone I feel I’d be the one she’d confide in as a she did before with some of the weird and wonderful men her parents tried to match her with. She doesn’t have any other western friends, she’s grown up in a world that English is their second language and being perfect is the goal. If she had got divorced/he’s left she’s had plenty of opportunities to tell me and she knows I’d be the most understanding, if something had happened to the baby post labour why so silent beforehand?

I’m worried sick, how should I go around this?

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wildseas · 12/01/2022 05:36

When she said she was due any day are you 100% sure she meant she was pregnant? There couldn’t have been any language confusion? Did you then go on to talk about pregnancy?

The whole thing sounds really worrying and I suspect that you’re likely to find something really serious here. The things which spring to mind for me are either baby loss or significant mental health issues.

I think meeting up with her face to face like you’ve suggested is probably the best thing that you can do and just take it gently with no judgement.

Saradegrey · 12/01/2022 06:15

You clearly have nothing in common with her, and it's not much of a friendship - it's clearly one-way - you are doing all the "worrying".
I would leave it now. It's her personal business.
She may contact you or she may not.

whosaidtha · 12/01/2022 06:30

If you really were a close friend you'd just ask. Stop worrying and just ask if she's had baby or how the baby is. How is husband adjusting to be being a dad. Something.

Purplependant222 · 12/01/2022 06:33

@wildseas I've also questioned myself if I got the wrong end of the stick but she said how dire her baby shower was as it was a surprise by her MIL and how the MIL didn't invite any of her friends.

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wildseas · 12/01/2022 06:38

Ok then it’s not a misunderstanding.

So tread really carefully but definitely meet and ask face to face.

Good luck - it sounds really tricky but I think that you sound like a wonderful friend

namechange10472 · 12/01/2022 06:49

It's a hard one. A lot of my family are Muslim and one thing I know is that they are very private when it comes to personal things. They do not post images of their spouses/children on social media. They have often said to me they believe it can cause 'the evil eye' (basically jealousy). So I can actually understand if she doesn't post photos of her baby and that might be an explanation.
They also keep it quiet if there is a divorce. My SIL recently got remarried and everyone was shocked as they didn't realise she was divorced from her first husband.
Tbh the only way you will know is if she tells you. If your concerned rearrange the catch up and delicately ask how married life is going.

Wigglegiggle0520 · 12/01/2022 06:53

I think you need to speak to her on the phone or meet with her in person. Anyone could be responding to her messages.
It may be that she just doesn’t want to be friends anymore but at least you will have heard it directly from her.

AllyBama · 12/01/2022 07:02

I think you just need to ask her. I’m not that familiar with the cultural aspects at play here but surely if she’s that good of a friend, you (and her) can just stop beating about the bush and come out with it? If she’s keeping something from you, perhaps you’re not as close as you think.

VerveClique · 12/01/2022 07:07

Hi friend! Haven’t heard from you for ages. You must be well past your due date now, how are things? I hope all is ok xx

BusterGonad · 12/01/2022 07:11

I completely agree with everything Wildseas has said.

Luredbyapomegranate · 12/01/2022 07:29

I think you are right to be concerned.

It’s good she’s agreed to meet up in person, avoid being pushy but try and rearrange that as soon as possible. When you do meet, as a PP said, tread carefully as she’s clearly not a sharer. But it sounds like she wants to be in touch and may be in need of a friend.

BashStreetKid · 12/01/2022 07:42

If you were due to meet last weekend and you had to cancel, surely the answer is to rearrange the meeting ASAP? That seems to be your best opportunity to find out what is going on.

MyOtherProfile · 12/01/2022 07:56

I hope you can meet in person soon.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 12/01/2022 08:01

I don’t put anything about my husband or children on my social media page.
If you’re worried though, just ask her.
If she gets shitty and falls out with you, it doesn’t sound like it’ll be much of a friendship lost anyway.

SecondhandTable · 12/01/2022 08:06

Difficult one. I can understand why you're worried, I would be too. I'd just contact her to ask how she is and express concern for her - it's fine to tell a friend you're worried about them. And rearrange your meet up ASAP. You will better be able to talk to her and suss out what is going on when you see her in person so if you're concerned I'd be pushing for that. (I am Muslim and I agree that as a generalisation we can often be more 'private' and reluctant to discuss our domestic lives.)

MamaGaia · 12/01/2022 08:55

I just wanted to add that no sign of husband or baby isn’t necessarily suspicious. I never post photos of either on my SM, so the only people who know I’m married and have a baby are those who know. I keep my life private, so I wouldn’t see that as a red flag.

Hemingwayzcatz · 12/01/2022 10:56

Some people don’t post pics of their family on SM for privacy reasons which is understandable and not weird at all.

I’m unsure why you didn’t message to ask her how she and the baby were doing after she told you she was due? It wouldn’t be prying, just a normal question to ask when someone has a baby.

ChristmasPlanning · 12/01/2022 20:54

I would rearrange and see his age is. She may hsve suffered a tragedy or perhaps her husband is private and they've agreed no SM posts or him or baby

Pencilandpaper · 12/01/2022 21:05

Why can’t you just ask how her baby is, name etc? And how husband is?
I must be totally missing something

TragoCardboardCopper · 12/01/2022 21:14

Can you ring or message her and say something like 'Hi Friend, how are things with you? You've been quiet lately, I hope everything's ok? Sorry I had to cancel our meet up, are you free on x date for coffee/a walk/whatever?

Purplependant222 · 03/02/2022 19:32

Update:

Met up with said friend, baby is absolutely beautiful and life is going well.

She works for a small company where the director believes women should focus on their marriage/children and not work. She didn’t take maternity leave and deleted everything relating to her husband when her manager added her on SM.

We had a laugh as she swears we were talking when baby was born but it was the weeks running up to it.

All is ok.

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Stopsnowing · 03/02/2022 19:35

That is good news but she should take her manager off her social media!

ChristmasPlanning · 04/02/2022 00:04

Glad she and baby are happy and healthy. She needs to delete her boss though!

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